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Old 02-25-2015, 07:08 PM
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Default Anyone following/up to date on the Net Neutrality deal tomorrow?

Not looking to take sides politically and bilge this, but this seems like a pretty big deal from what I have heard and could change the way we all use the Internet. Big vote tomorrow and not sure what will come of it, but not too much coverage on it. Anyone have an opinion?
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:34 PM
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A little up to speed on it. The government just can't keep it's grubby fingers out of it.
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Forget about the content of the law for just a moment. Think about how it's being passed:

A committee of unelected officials is forcing this down our throats, along party lines, WITHOUT LETTING ANYONE READ THE LAW!!!

Not even Congress can see the law until /after/ it's passed! The head of the FCC refuses to testify before Congress.

The Shining City Upon a Hill that our Founders envisioned is long gone. We are their worst nightmare...and nobody cares!

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Old 02-25-2015, 08:03 PM
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I'm sick of this out of control government, 330 pages of regulation is going to be passed tomorrow but they refuse to let anyone know what is in it until it over.

but don't worry it's the only way we can keep the internet the way it is, lying bastards
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Government controls land, sea, and air ...
Government controls financial markets ...
Government controls education ...
Government controls healthcare ...
Government taking control in information technology ...

What could possible go wrong?
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapi View Post
Forget about the content of the law for just a moment. Think about how it's being passed:

A committee of unelected officials is forcing this down our throats, along party lines, WITHOUT LETTING ANYONE READ THE LAW!!!

Not even Congress can see the law until /after/ it's passed! The head of the FCC refuses to testify before Congress.

The Shining City Upon a Hill that our Founders envisioned is long gone. We are their worst nightmare...and nobody cares!

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just another piece of the "change" that the majority voted for...
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Decisions have consequence's

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Old 02-26-2015, 04:58 AM
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Washington needs to be decimated while "in session".
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I think we may come to rue the day the FCC did this. What was wrong with the internet as it currently is.
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:35 PM
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Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet

Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet

Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
I guess we will all find out whats in it once we read the new rules eh.
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet

Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
Seriously?

More regulation = more cost to providers. (You think they're just gonna do that extra paperwork for free?)

Think they're just gonna suck up that cost? You probably do.

WE "The People and Businesses" will foot the bill for this.
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet

Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
Since you don't get it, see Rapi's post above.
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Old 02-27-2015, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet

Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
You are spending too much time believing left wing bloggers.
If it were so good for "us", then the debate would be out in the open, and the proposed FCC rules available for all to view and comment on BEFORE they are adopted - that is how democracies work. The current administration believes it somehow should operate the way the Castro's do in Cuba!
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet


Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
That's coming from the one citizen issued all 330 hundred pages to review.
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The real problem with is that Mr. Obama exerted undue and direct influence on this decision.

It taints the decision as political regardless of its merit.
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:24 AM
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Bandwidth costs money, period. Who is paying for that?

I am seeing this more and more now that I have moved in with my GF. Four of us at the house, two teenagers...and they LIVE on the Internet, I mean LIVE on it. Netflix, Youtube, gaming online, etc.

We hit a 300GB limit almost EVERY MONTH. I can see the affect in my house when they are streaming, it slows EVERYTHING else down. Now extrapolate that to a larger scale....why should Netflix/users get a free ride for to slow down the Internet for others (again bandwidth IS finite)?

Hell the regulation will not even allow non-monetized traffic shaping from what I have read! As someone that manages an international network I can tell you that not traffic shaping will truly damage the Internet experience.

I think there was a middle-ground here, this regulation is not the answer, period.

Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Oh, good God.

Net neutrality is keeping the Internet as it currently is.

Now it's like phone service or electric service. It's just gonna work, every time, and your Internet provider can't jack you around with ridiculous demands just because you want to watch Netflix or WatchESPN. Or put Internet Brands' boards on a separate tier.

You won. YOU WON, DAMMIT! Now stop being the idiots who believe the cable companies' lies and propaganda telling you that somehow you lost. Because you won.

Period.

Why the FCC's New Net Neutrality Rules are Good for the Internet

Dear FCC: Thanks for Listening to Team Internet! | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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I'm amazed at the vehement opinions on a set of regulations no one has seen.

I don't like the process by which the FCC passed the regulations. I reserve judgment on whether the regulations are a good or bad thing but I'm leaning toward good based on the major industry players in favor and opposed.

If there's one thing government has perfected, it is how to destroy faith in government.

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Anyone that thinks the government getting involved in anything else is a moron (apologies to moronzo). Everything the government touches with their greasy fingers ends up costing more and working less. Jesus, isn't there more than enough fouled up stuff they need to work on already?
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
I'm amazed at the vehement opinions on a set of regulations no one has seen.

I don't like the process by which the FCC passed the regulations. I reserve judgment on whether the regulations are a good or bad thing but I'm leaning toward good based on the major industry players in favor and opposed.

If there's one thing government has perfected, it is how to destroy faith in government.
I don't care if it reduces my internet cost to $1. My problem is the cloak and dagger way this administration goes about it's business.
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