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My wife and I after 2 months of research , interviewing pool companies , and pondering the WHOLE deal are about to sign contract this week and get started on our family pool . We have agreed on a pretty simple pool . Steel frame , Grecian , stairs at one end ladder other end , diving board , pretty standard ... Just curious if there are any must do , definately not do kinda stuff . My mind is burnt on all this s#i% and listening to wife's list of upgrade ideas and I just want some real world advice from the THT crew that I know is flooded with pool owners SOOOO any and all advice to complicate the matter greatly appreciated
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And to add kids are 10 , 8 , and 6 . And pretty sure we are ruling out saltwater system . Although it would give me some more "SALT LIFE" street CRED
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I'd lose the diving board. That's extravagant for a home pool and poses some additional risk for your kid's friends and horseplay. Also requires a very deep pool. My wife's childhood home had a 25 x 50 foot oval pool with a diving board. A LARGE pool by home standards. The deep end was so short, if you dove off the board, you had to make sure you dove straight down or you'd hit the incline.

We now have a 20 x 40 foot concrete in-ground pool that goes from 3' to 8' but no diving board.

Consider an auto cover. We have one that works great. Turn a key and the cover extends across the pool when not in use. Keeps leaves out, as well as kids, etc. I think is safer than a fence.
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Looked at the auto cover but pretty sure that's out of my league price wise . The diving board has been a topic of discussion . We considered a diving rock instead but seemed a lot less fun but a bit cooler estetically. But with a rock how will my 40 year old ass have a shot at triple lindy
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What are your reasons for ruling out saltwater system? We switched from chlorine to a salt based chorine system 3 years ago and we love it. Maintenance went way down, no weekly shocking/adding chemicals/checking pH etc. Salt systems do not have to have pump running 24/7. We installed timer for pump and run 12hrs on 12hrs off. The money saved in the first year alone, on chemicals/power paid for installing salt system. Grandkids have no red eyes or green hair with the salt and your skin feels much better after being in the pool now. Was spending $6-8 hundred/yr on chemicals with the chlorine pool spent $120 on salt last year.
Our pool is an older one and we did not have it built. One thing I would definitely have if building a new pool is a dedicated auto vacuum system for cleaning, several types out there, most are powered by your pump, takes a lot of work out of keeping pool clean.

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Re-think the saltwater option, it is great, not expensive and provides a better overall pool experience. Consider solar heating for the pool. Put in a spa, you will find you will use that more than the pool.
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may have to give up the diving board......up here in jersey only 3 companies will give you house ins with a diving board my house premium would be $600 yearly ...is $1200 with it....grand kids do love it though..........
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Your answers are there.

Saltwater pools are just a different way to add chlorine...but it can make things a little easier, but probably not cheaper than properly maintaining a liquid chlorine pool. A properly maintained pool without a salt system WILL NOT turn your hair green. A lot of people have fallen for the marketing provided by the salt water generator sales people.
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Re-think the saltwater option, it is great, not expensive and provides a better overall pool experience. Consider solar heating for the pool. Put in a spa, you will find you will use that more than the pool.
Hot tub is already on the deck it's used daily . For us after the research salt system is not likely . We haven't even considered the solar aspect but we have GREAT sunlight on the pools location . Thx for input
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What are your reasons for ruling out saltwater system? We switched from chlorine to a salt based chorine system 3 years ago and we love it. Maintenance went way down, no weekly shocking/adding chemicals/checking pH etc. Salt systems do not have to have pump running 24/7. We installed timer for pump and run 12hrs on 12hrs off. The money saved in the first year alone, on chemicals/power paid for installing salt system. Grandkids have no red eyes or green hair with the salt and your skin feels much better after being in the pool now. Was spending $6-8 hundred/yr on chemicals with the chlorine pool spent $120 on salt last year.
Our pool is an older one and we did not have it built. One thing I would definitely have if building a new pool is a dedicated auto vacuum system for cleaning, several types out there, most are powered by your pump, takes a lot of work out of keeping pool clean.
Thanks for your post . Just not sure on salt system . Wife had pool growing up and her and her dad are pretty comfy with standard system . The auto vac is definately something we have looked at . May wait to add that . I'm sure I will be beer in hand vacuuming that pool on the regular for the first year .
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Your answers are there.

Saltwater pools are just a different way to add chlorine...but it can make things a little easier, but probably not cheaper than properly maintaining a liquid chlorine pool. A properly maintained pool without a salt system WILL NOT turn your hair green. A lot of people have fallen for the marketing provided by the salt water generator sales people.
This is EXACTLY what the guy trying to sell me a pool said
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Originally Posted by flyau98 View Post
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Your answers are there.

Saltwater pools are just a different way to add chlorine...but it can make things a little easier, but probably not cheaper than properly maintaining a liquid chlorine pool. A properly maintained pool without a salt system WILL NOT turn your hair green. A lot of people have fallen for the marketing provided by the salt water generator sales people.
From our experience, I have to disagree about chlorine pool cost versus salt based chlorine generator system. Maintaining our pool using chorine required running pool pump at all times. Every couple of days adding chlorine tablets to skimmer, mini shock each weekend along with soda lime and bluing agent. A couple of days of rain meant more chlorine, checking adjusting ph, maybe more bluing agent.
With the salt system we open pool at the beginning of summer with a few bags of pool salt, which is much cheaper than chlorine, run continuosly a few days checking generator read outs for chlorine level, pH level and once desired levels are reached switch on pump timer to 12 on/12 off and that is pretty much it for the summer, rarely adding a bag of salt. We have grandkids that are in the pool daily so it gets a lot of use.
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In pool lights, wide decking, rock diving, stream running into pool, and the sky is the limit along with $$$$
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From our experience, I have to disagree about chlorine pool cost versus salt based chlorine generator system. Maintaining our pool using chorine required running pool pump at all times. Every couple of days adding chlorine tablets to skimmer, mini shock each weekend along with soda lime and bluing agent. A couple of days of rain meant more chlorine, checking adjusting ph, maybe more bluing agent.
With the salt system we open pool at the beginning of summer with a few bags of pool salt, which is much cheaper than chlorine, run continuosly a few days checking generator read outs for chlorine level, pH level and once desired levels are reached switch on pump timer to 12 on/12 off and that is pretty much it for the summer, rarely adding a bag of salt. We have grandkids that are in the pool daily so it gets a lot of use.
You need to circulate water 1x per day. if that takes 12 hours your pump is too small. The salt has nothing to do with it.

The salt generator uses about 10 in electricity per month plus the salt. You still need to add acid and baking soda. The element in the generator will konk out in 3 years. Price wise its a wash. The only benefits are not driving to store, and a stable minimum chlorine level.

All the other options are a function of your use and location. Leaves / trees? Get the vac...

I thought my salt system was a waste....
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Check your home insurance if you can have a diving board. I had an insurance inspection and they gave me two weeks to get rid of slide and board. (I said f. Off). Only one company would give me insurance at twice the price . 25 years , no claims
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My wife and I after 2 months of research , interviewing pool companies , and pondering the WHOLE deal are about to sign contract this week and get started on our family pool . We have agreed on a pretty simple pool . Steel frame , Grecian , stairs at one end ladder other end , diving board , pretty standard ... Just curious if there are any must do , definately not do kinda stuff . My mind is burnt on all this s#i% and listening to wife's list of upgrade ideas and I just want some real world advice from the THT crew that I know is flooded with pool owners SOOOO any and all advice to complicate the matter greatly appreciated
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I have only have one pool... the one I have now...
If I could choose this is what I would do....

1- rectangular (no kidney shaped)
2- loose the diving board.... (same as If you want to put a slide) Insurance will kill your rate or simply reject your policy.. I learned that the hard way...
2- stick to the standard 10 x 30 x 6 (I believe that is the most common home pool size) holding around 15000 gallons of water. Mine is 20 x 40 x 8 feet on the deep end. that is around 33000 gals of water... bigger pool makes everything else needed bigger and more expensive. Bigger filtering system, multiple chlorination cells, more chemicals,etc.... and the deep end gets hardly ever used.
3- salt based chlorination system will make your life MUCH easier... I thought I was wasting my money and now I would not own a pool without it.
4- There is a new(at least to me) trend now in pool building where they make a really shallow area on one end, like 6 or 8 inches?, where the kids can play safely or you can put a couple of beach chairs getting your feet wet and cool without having to get on the water all the way....I would definitely get that

5- if money is not an object, I would love to have the in-pool hot tub or Jacuzzi or whatever you want to call it...

6- pumps... do not know much about this part because my pump is a simple old one speed pump, but I've heard the new ones with multiple speeds and econo mode are much better, quieter and cheaper to run.
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1. Get rid of the Dive Board!
2. Get the best pump you can afford.
3. Live plants in containers only!
4. Spend the $$$ on the decking, always want more decking.
5. Pavers over stamped concrete or cool deck.
6. Stay under 12,000 gallons. cheaper, easy care, easy to sell later.
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Check out the new variable speed pumps. 550 watts vs 3500 watts

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Thx for everyone's responses so far ! Wife will win in the long run but good to hear logical responses
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