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Old 01-20-2015, 03:01 AM
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Default Another one! 5yo kills baby with gun!

Jesus, besides the obvious tragedy here, lock up your guns if you have kids in the house. I know there are always those that think, well my dad never locked up his guns and I never touched them. That is stinking thinking! Lock them up.

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That's horrible.

When I read the title I knew it was going to be a revolver.

I keep my LC9 beside my bed on my nightstand. It has a full magazine but is not chambered. No kids in the house but my nephews come over. When they do I put the gun away. If I forget it would be impossible for the 7yo, 4yo, or 1yo to work the action. None of them are strong enough to even pull the trigger.

Some have mentioned having an auto not chambered but with the safety on is asking for trouble in the event you need the weapon quickly. I think storing it like this is the best option for me. I have very powerful man hands and can have the action worked by the time I have the gun aimed causing no delay in shooting.
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Some people are so f'ing stupid. They have that "god given right" to own a gun, it's children they shouldn't be allowed to have.
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Some people are so f'ing stupid. They have that "god given right" to own a gun, it's children they shouldn't be allowed to have.
Exactly!
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I keep my LC9 beside my bed on my nightstand. It has a full magazine but is not chambered.
Seriously? You leave a loaded gun on your night stand? I must be freakishly cautious about gun safety, as I get nervous keeping a loaded gun in a gun safe on my nightstand. Granted, I do have kids, but even when I didn't, I would not have kept a loaded gun on my nightstand. Is this a common thing? Am I being overly paranoid? You can be honest, I'm wearing my big boy pants.
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Originally Posted by superjag View Post
Seriously? You leave a loaded gun on your night stand? I must be freakishly cautious about gun safety, as I get nervous keeping a loaded gun in a gun safe on my nightstand. Granted, I do have kids, but even when I didn't, I would not have kept a loaded gun on my nightstand. Is this a common thing? Am I being overly paranoid? You can be honest, I'm wearing my big boy pants.
No, you are being responsible.

I'm fairly certain that most of these tragedies would be averted if more people were as responsible as you. My guess would be that most parents in the situations like this, also felt their child couldn't chamber a round or pull the trigger, or (insert excuse for irresponsible gun ownership here).
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How the hell is it irresponsible to have a loaded gun on the night stand when there are no kids in the house?
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How the hell is it irresponsible to have a loaded gun on the night stand when there are no kids in the house?
Who said it was? ;?
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I keep 2 loaded guns in my night stand. However when the grandkids are here, which is only twice a yr, () it goes in the biometric safe. Only the wife and I can open it.
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Train your kids! When I was 5 years old I knew what a firearm was and how to use it. I also knew it was not a toy and if I ever touched it without my dad present there would be hell to pay.

Learned to shoot with 22LR Remington.
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
How the hell is it irresponsible to have a loaded gun on the night stand when there are no kids in the house?
Where do you live, 'cause I want to live where you do as there must be a zero % chance of being a burglary victim....

Yes, you are irresponsible Shag, lock it up.
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Train your kids! When I was 5 years old I knew what a firearm was and how to use it. I also knew it was not a toy and if I ever touched it without my dad present there would be hell to pay.

Learned to shoot with 22LR Remington.
Yeah, i did the similar with my two year old, I told him stairs were dangerous and not to climb them, so I figured no need for gates now.


I also left power tools circular saws, etc... plugged in and lying around but I showed him how to use them so it's ok.

And I told him never to run into the street. He's smart, I'm sure he'll figure that one out...
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
How the hell is it irresponsible to have a loaded gun on the night stand when there are no kids in the house?
That doesn't sound very responsible.
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Yeah, i did the similar with my two year old, I told him stairs were dangerous and not to climb them, so I figured no need for gates now.


I also left power tools circular saws, etc... plugged in and lying around but I showed him how to use them so it's ok.

And I told him never to run into the street. He's smart, I'm sure he'll figure that one out...
Make sure he has no friends too.
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
That doesn't sound very responsible.
Why? Its just the wife and myself. I guess a kid could break into the house at night.
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post

Why? Its just the wife and myself. I guess a kid could break into the house at night.
On your hip or in a safe.
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Make sure he has no friends too.
That's the idea. Ensures no liberals let their bad influences come over to play.
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Originally Posted by Hooper View Post
Yeah, i did the similar with my two year old, I told him stairs were dangerous and not to climb them, so I figured no need for gates now.


I also left power tools circular saws, etc... plugged in and lying around but I showed him how to use them so it's ok.

And I told him never to run into the street. He's smart, I'm sure he'll figure that one out...
There is a difference between a 2yo and 5yo.

You can put all the safety plug in the light sockets at your house but not every where else. Sooner or later the kids will have to learn.

When I was a kid, my parents had a 900-pound television on top of a TV tray. My dad's theory was, Let him pull it over his head a few times, he'll learn. You wanna put a penny in a light socket? Try that out. OHH! Hurt like hell, didn't it? Don't do that no more.
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Originally Posted by rdmallory View Post

There is a difference between a 2yo and 5yo.

You can put all the safety plug in the light sockets at your house but not every where else. Sooner or later the kids will have to learn.
Obviously. My point being a 5 year old hasn't developed to understand firearms safety anymore than a two year old can be left unattended around stairs, or saws or streets. The consequences are too damn tragic.
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Originally Posted by rdmallory View Post
Train your kids! When I was 5 years old I knew what a firearm was and how to use it. I also knew it was not a toy and if I ever touched it without my dad present there would be hell to pay.

Learned to shoot with 22LR Remington.
My Mom spent thirty years handling high value liability insurance claims. As such she handled more shooting death incidents involving children shooting each other, shooting adults, and accidentally shooting themselves than she cares to remember.

Although each event is distinctly different, there was always one detail common to all of them. It was a grief stricken parent / gun owner repeating over and over " . . but I taught them never to touch the gun. They knew better . . . ".

Store your weapon responsibly.

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