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Old 11-05-2014, 01:15 PM
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Has anyone else here had the privilege of attending one of Rob's presentations? I met him last year at a company function and was thoroughly impressed with Rob's professionalism and demeanor. Of course, no one had any idea he was the shooter, but I find it easy to believe.

I don't care about what secrets the Navy or anyone else has or requires operators to keep. This guy killed bin laden and deserves the respect and admiration of our Country.
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Old 11-05-2014, 02:15 PM
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I have some issue with a man taking an oath to secrecy and then going on Foxnews and revealing those secrets.
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I have some issue with a man taking an oath to secrecy and then going on Foxnews and revealing those secrets.
Are you good with it on MSNBC or CNN?
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I have some issue with a man taking an oath to secrecy and then going on Foxnews and revealing those secrets.
The Gov will take exception to this also.
Complaing about the benefits or lack there of and only putting in 16 instead of 20?
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Are you good with it on MSNBC or CNN?
Shouldn't be on. Period
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Originally Posted by nhpursuit2870 View Post
I have some issue with a man taking an oath to secrecy and then going on Foxnews and revealing those secrets.
Agreed. I was pissed when Biden outed the team originally.

The public has no need to know this stuff
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ShareHe was decorated 52 times, leaving as senior chief petty officer. His decorations include*two Silver Stars, four Bronze Stars with Valor, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit citations, and two Navy/Marine Corps Commendations with Valor.

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He had this career and now he is extremely sideways with his brothers .... something doesn't add up.
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ShareHe was decorated 52 times, leaving as senior chief petty officer. His decorations include*two Silver Stars, four Bronze Stars with Valor, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit citations, and two Navy/Marine Corps Commendations with Valor.

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He had this career and now he is extremely sideways with his brothers .... something doesn't add up.
Yes, it does. It's the pinnacle of a wolf pack, doesn't matter how alpha male you are when you break with the pack, they cast you out. Many communities in the military are like this and have done worse to their own for far less.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
The Gov will take exception to this also.
Complaing about the benefits or lack there of and only putting in 16 instead of 20?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ood-roles.html

Despite his 16 years of service, O'Neill told the magazine that the SEALs had offered to get him a job delivering beer in Michigan, which he compared to witness protection for Mafia turncoats.
Things work different where he was stationed, when compared to everywhere else in the military (except for their Army brothers). My guess is that if they did offer him the beer driver gig he was pissed he just couldn't get a normal or discounted retirement. It wasn't too long ago you could early out of the Navy at 15 for a very, very small pension (believe it was 25% of base pay or less).
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I just hope you guys do not realize that I was "missing" from THT the week of the OBL raid.
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Originally Posted by Copper Collar View Post
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Things work different where he was stationed, when compared to everywhere else in the military (except for their Army brothers). My guess is that if they did offer him the beer driver gig he was pissed he just couldn't get a normal or discounted retirement. It wasn't too long ago you could early out of the Navy at 15 for a very, very small pension (believe it was 25% of base pay or less).
That may be so but probably went away when the military started cutting back
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Originally Posted by Copper Collar View Post
Yes, it does. It's the pinnacle of a wolf pack, doesn't matter how alpha male you are when you break with the pack, they cast you out. Many communities in the military are like this and have done worse to their own for far less.
I don't think it so much about breaking away but for telling the stories about the missions and how they were done.
The Seal from Team 6 that was on 60 Minutes Sunday pretty much summed it up.
It's about just doing the job without getting killed and not trying to get notoriety.
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That may be so but probably went away when the military started cutting back
They never cut back spending on NSW and other SOF units.

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I don't think it so much about breaking away but for telling the stories about the missions and how they were done.
The Seal from Team 6 that was on 60 Minutes Sunday pretty much summed it up.
It's about just doing the job without getting killed and not trying to get notoriety.
By talking he is breaking from the pack mentality of "quiet professional".
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Originally Posted by nhpursuit2870 View Post
I have some issue with a man taking an oath to secrecy and then going on Foxnews and revealing those secrets.
He also put a bullseye on his chest......
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He also put a bullseye on his chest......
So did the government when they publicly stated what command was tasked with the mission.
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Yes, it does. It's the pinnacle of a wolf pack, doesn't matter how alpha male you are when you break with the pack, they cast you out. Many communities in the military are like this and have done worse to their own for far less.
I wasn't talking about the military's reaction, I am talking about the shooter breaking away from his team.
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What I see is a marketing plan, ahead of a book and movie deal.

A lot of things do not add up here, but not withstanding, without making himself "known" and the actions of his career, the man was living a widely irrelevent life in the scheme of things.

There is value in the intangibleness of his career, and what he has done, however, shrouded in secrecy that value remains locked. With this move, he has essentially created a monetization event to his value.
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
ShareHe was decorated 52 times, leaving as senior chief petty officer. His decorations include*two Silver Stars, four Bronze Stars with Valor, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit citations, and two Navy/Marine Corps Commendations with Valor.

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He had this career and now he is extremely sideways with his brothers .... something doesn't add up.
A sign of intelligence is being able to read what's not obvious. In addition to your inference, I saw the same thing in the brief (albeit very public) setting of my interaction with him. His travel schedule is insane, and for a few years; he's assumed the lunatics have been gunning for him. His routine is as you'd expect of an operator: privately held, changes at the last minute at airline desks, etc. But he hasn't been hiding under a rock: he's speaking in large settings without an entourage of body guards.

I respect and would normally agree with the sentiments of the veterans, and others, regarding holding to one's own counsel as a SEAL or other SF operator. However, I also think the take down of OBL as both a target and a symbol; and with all the politicization of the action; warrant some publicly available information. I believe Rob has very compelling reasons for this public release; we'll see.

Finally, Rob wasn't "just another squid" (although he would probably argue that). Read up on the losses his teams took: 0.00 in scores of close combat operations. The guy is not just a stud; he's very smart.
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Are you good with it on MSNBC or CNN?
I'm OK with MSNBC.
If you ever take the time to watch Al Sharpton's show you will be too.
I always get a good laugh when he reads something to the audience. He sounds his words out like Robby from Joe Dirt.
F'n hilarious!
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I'm OK with MSNBC.
If you ever take the time to watch Al Sharpton's show you will be too.
I always get a good laugh when he reads something to the audience. He sounds his words out like Robby from Joe Dirt.
F'n hilarious!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lhGY7kr41I
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