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So, my lawn looks like shit and I was thinking about killing the whole damn thing and starting over. Really can't afford sod at this point in time. Whats the best herbicide to kill the grass/weeds??
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go round up. Follow directions. I've killed sections off added top soil and ground everything up then added seed. It works
I haven't had a crappy looking lawn till I went with fescue grass. Talk about a fragile grass.
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go round up. Follow directions. I've killed sections off added top soil and ground everything up then added seed. It works
I haven't had a crappy looking lawn till I went with fescue grass. Talk about a fragile grass.
Yeah, I was going to kill, till up the entire yard, compost, then seed. Any suggestions on seed??
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Yeah, I was going to kill, till up the entire yard, compost, then seed. Any suggestions on seed??

Talk to Jerry at Bowens Southern States Store on Riva Road in Naptown.

He will steer you straight.

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Yeah, I was going to kill, till up the entire yard, compost, then seed. Any suggestions on seed??
If you spray a non specific herbicide it will only kill what is currently growing and when you till up the area you will expose buried seeds which will continue the issue. Is the compost you are using free of weed seeds? A pre-emergent might work but you would have to sod the area instead of seeding it.

You have fishing to do instead of messing with this, just make a wildflower meadow and hit the water.
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Yeah, I was going to kill, till up the entire yard, compost, then seed. Any suggestions on seed??
No idea what type grass in MD.
A fella in Baton Rouge killed off his whole lawn centipede grass (this is the grass the whole neighborhood has). Replaced with St Augustine grass. Upset the neighbors on both sides of him. He did this then sold house 4 yrs later. I giggled about this then found out my clueless neighbor had some dead spots from a tree removed and his new St Augustine crept into my yard causing me a 20'x20' square within 3 months. That's how I learned to kill then replant grass. Its a breeze but does take time to get it established. The whole neighborhood must be st Augustine by now. I no longer live their.

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Originally Posted by shadco View Post
Talk to Jerry at Bowens Southern States Store on Riva Road in Naptown.

He will steer you straight.

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Good advice! I forgot about them.
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no expert here - but my lawn had a broad leaf and weed invasion 2 years ago. Went from nice to crap in one summer.

Turns out, I was cutting it to short.

After a few weed and seeds, some liquid weed killer and 4 months of cutting it very long and allowing it to grow until it seeds before cutting again... the lawn is making a comeback.
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I'm definitely a lawn guy. 1st thing, stop and talk with a neighbor or 2 or 3 that has a nice lawn. I've yet to run into one that hasn't smiled at the compliment and offered up what they do for success. Then identify which grass you want and read on specifics. Nice lawns don't happen by accident. They're actually a little expensive on the front end but level out expense wise once they're well established.

A big problem many people don't check is PH. Here the extension service does it free; we can send in for a complete soil evaluation for I think $20-$25 which identifies all the parameters with suggestions to amend for the best benefit. But back to the PH level, I have a neighbor that is literally losing his sod layed last year because of a low PH. I've told him to get it checked but he remains unconvinced so the slow death continues. Another neighbor did have his checked, amended as instructed and now has a yard thick with St Augustine like never before.

It's late in the season here but you may have options that do better when started this time of year. If you can choose a grass that crawls, there's no need to kill what you have. Figure out what it likes and do things to enhance it's growth. In a year or two, it'll all be covered.
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Originally Posted by alligatorgar View Post
No idea what type grass in MD.
A fella in Baton Rouge killed off his whole lawn centipede grass (this is the grass the whole neighborhood has). Replaced with St Augustine grass. Upset the neighbors on both sides of him. He did this then sold house 4 yrs later. I giggled about this then found out my clueless neighbor had some dead spots from a tree removed and his new St Augustine crept into my yard causing me a 20'x20' square within 3 months. That's how I learned to kill then replant grass. Its a breeze but does take time to get it established. The whole neighborhood must be st Augustine by now. I no longer live their.
I thought centipede overtook St Augustine?? Oh well, the more you know.
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I thought centipede overtook St Augustine?? Oh well, the more you know.
No --- St Augustine is the grass on steroids. Give it water and full sun and It will kill weeds. Centipede is the weak little brother of St Augustine.
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what do you have now? fescue? Couple of thoughts if it is fescue, thatch it to break up soil tension. Then I would aerate the entire yard. Then this fall once the heat lets up, seed with rebel grass seed. A lot of the main brands of grass are full of weeds.
Water is your friend early on. then in the spring aerate it again and over seed. Once it is going cut it high and lots of water early in the morning.
You will have a nice yard in no time.
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what do you have now? fescue? Couple of thoughts if it is fescue, thatch it to break up soil tension. Then I would aerate the entire yard. Then this fall once the heat lets up, seed with rebel grass seed. A lot of the main brands of grass are full of weeds.
Water is your friend early on. then in the spring aerate it again and over seed. Once it is going cut it high and lots of water early in the morning.
You will have a nice yard in no time.

I have some kind of small clover, weed looking shit! It's taken over the whole yard.
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A lot of people throw money in to their lawns and many times they end up throwing it away. I have been guilty of doing this myself. If the pH of the soil in your yard is too acidic or alkaline no amount of money spent on grass seed is going to bring it back. Correcting your soil issues will go a long way in ensuring that your lawn will thrive and be the envy of your neighbors.

By taking soil samples an expert can determine what is lacking and advise you on how to correct the problems. Many people don't realize that you can easily take samples yourself and have them analyzed. In North Carolina the Department of Agriculture will test your soil at no cost between the months of April and November. They even provide the materials, "less tools" as well as the forms and instructions on how to do it.

Last year one of my buddies and I took samples from my lawn. I had areas in my yard where weeds were all that would grow. Came to find out my yard needed lime. In fact I applied once in the spring and again in the fall. Fall soils samples noted a pH reading of 9.0-10 and by spring it had dropped back to 6.5-7.5. This spring when it started warming up I noticed that I had a much thicker lawn with little to no weed growth. No, line doesn't kill weeds but it does encourage grass to grow thicker and fuller which prevents thin spots in the lawn where weeds will make their move.

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And there you have it. Budbrande has a PH of 9.0-10 which is alkaline and would kill St Augustine here. Each plant has different PH requirements. Some have very broad ranges so do well in many settings. Our average for the area without amendment is 5.0-5.5. We had to amend ours above 6.3 before St Augustine would absorb nutrients well enough to grow.
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Ahhh growing nice grass, what a PITA!!!!

You are actually getting to the wrong season for killing things.

I agree with others to get the soil tested and find out the Ph.

Here is a basic outline of what you do when.

Fall-Sept thru end of Oct

This is when you actually grow grass. Put down seed and a starter fertilizer water about a 1/4" three times a week until it germinates and then you can go down to twice per week. You usually let everything grow this time of year, grass, weeds everything. Try to keep the falling leaves off the new grass as much as you can, blowing is better the raking so it won't tare out the seedlings.

Winter Nov thru Feb

Not to much to do here if you have grown the new seed well in the fall it should survive through the winter.

Spring Feb thru April

Here is where you kill the broad leaf weeds like clove, I use this stuff http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lesco-Three-...3D221306926593 they sell it in gallon jugs as well and it will kill the weeds and not the grass.

Next is to put down a Pre-emergent with fertilizer twice during the spring about 6 to 8 weeks apart starting about middle of Feb or so. This does a couple of things first fertilizes the grass you grew in the fall and helps it come back up and second stops any of the annuals like Crabgrass from germinating.

Summer May thru Sept.

Summer is tough depending on the weather, if you are prone to get dollar spot or brown patch the stuff at Home Depot and Lowes doesn't work I use this stuff but you have to put it down every 21 to 28 days
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. The first time you see the low at night will be above 65* you have to get this stuff down or the fungus will take off fast and is hard to control.

Of course all of this is for a basic fescue grass. It is hard here because it gets a little to hot here for it and it is to cold for the summer grasses. You are a little more north so you should be in a good place for fescue.
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Kill the BS with pine straw, banned boy. Once it is dead, add more pine straw. Green lawns are so over rated.
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So, my lawn looks like shit and I was thinking about killing the whole damn thing and starting over. Really can't afford sod at this point in time. Whats the best herbicide to kill the grass/weeds??
Here you go: http://www.mdturfcouncil.org/admin/u...mendments1.pdf

If you have any specific questions I can probably help you out but most of my experience/training is further south.
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