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Old 08-19-2014, 07:50 AM
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Did Michael Brown Steal Cigars — Or Pay For Them?
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If Michael Brown committed a felonious strong-arm robbery at a convenience store just minutes before he was shot, why didn’t anybody from the store call 911? The report was made by a customer following what appeared to be an altercation between the 6’4″ Brown and a much smaller store employee.


According to the store’s owner, police didn’t issue a subpoena for the store’s surveillance video until last Friday — the day it was provided to the media by police officials, along with the name of Officer Darren Wilson, who fatally shot Brown a few minutes after the incident at the store. Wilson was not aware of the alleged robbery, and he was not pursuing Brown as a suspect. The fatal encounter began when Wilson rebuked Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, for jaywalking.

An excerpt of the security video shot from a different angle shows the figure identified as Brown at a check-out counter paying for the cigars before the apparent confrontation with the store clerk.

It’s not clear why the clerk confronted Brown, and why the much larger 18-year-old shoved the clerk, if no robbery was involved. The initial police report claimed that an unnamed “patron” had contacted police to report a “stealing in progress.” In a subsequent police interview, the witness claimed that Brown had reached over the counter and grabbed several packages of Swisher Sweets cigars and tried to leave without paying them. In the video above Brown can be seen reaching across the counter — but it appears that money is left on the counter, and accepted by the clerk, before Brown calmly walks toward the exit.

According to the police report, the cigars — whether stolen or paid for — were not recovered. Despite the fact that Dorian Johnson, who witnessed the shooting, was identified in that report as a second suspect, he has not been charged.
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Sorry but we already have two threads on this thug.
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Sorry but we already have two threads on this thug.
So the one I am composing now about the inadequacies of a 9mm Glock at stopping a persistent threat is a non starter?
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you could say that
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wasn't he 18? so can you buy tobacco in MO at 18? Or was he breaking the law there too?
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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
wasn't he 18? so can you buy tobacco in MO at 18? Or was he breaking the law there too?
I can not and will not find acceptable one individual infringing upon the rights of another but I will not fault someone for partaking in alcohol or tobacco as a legal adult just because the do-gooders in government prohibit it.
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Pay for them????? You are kidding I hope.
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What does it matter. The police have said that the cop stopping him knew nothing of the other incident.
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Pay for them????? You are kidding I hope.
Just posting the video and article which seems to contradict the strong arm robbery and thug opinion from yesterday.
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Originally Posted by agallant80 View Post
What does it matter. The police have said that the cop stopping him knew nothing of the other incident.
I agree but if he had stolen the cigars then he may have believed that was why the cop was approaching how ever if he paid for them then it would seem to have even less to do with the incident and once again brings up the question as to why the information was released and the accusation made.
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Why would he shove the store owner on the way out the door if he had paid for them?
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Why would he shove the store owner on the way out the door if he had paid for them?
Did you watch the video? Why was it edited before being released initially? If he did steal them then why did the store owner not report it? This whole incident just brings up more questions.
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I could see why the store owner wouldn't call, assuming he didn't.
Perhaps he didn't call 911 to report it.
Perhaps he asked the patron that called to do so..

Dial 911 for a handful of Swisher Sweets?
And why were they within arms reach?
They probably get lifted with regularity...
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.....and herein lies the problem with Liberal thought.





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More questions and does it matter?

Did Michael Brown Steal Cigars — Or Pay For Them?
By W N Grigg


If Michael Brown committed a felonious strong-arm robbery at a convenience store just minutes before he was shot, why didn’t anybody from the store call 911? The report was made by a customer following what appeared to be an altercation between the 6’4″ Brown and a much smaller store employee.


According to the store’s owner, police didn’t issue a subpoena for the store’s surveillance video until last Friday — the day it was provided to the media by police officials, along with the name of Officer Darren Wilson, who fatally shot Brown a few minutes after the incident at the store. Wilson was not aware of the alleged robbery, and he was not pursuing Brown as a suspect. The fatal encounter began when Wilson rebuked Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, for jaywalking.

An excerpt of the security video shot from a different angle shows the figure identified as Brown at a check-out counter paying for the cigars before the apparent confrontation with the store clerk.

It’s not clear why the clerk confronted Brown, and why the much larger 18-year-old shoved the clerk, if no robbery was involved. The initial police report claimed that an unnamed “patron” had contacted police to report a “stealing in progress.” In a subsequent police interview, the witness claimed that Brown had reached over the counter and grabbed several packages of Swisher Sweets cigars and tried to leave without paying them. In the video above Brown can be seen reaching across the counter — but it appears that money is left on the counter, and accepted by the clerk, before Brown calmly walks toward the exit.

According to the police report, the cigars — whether stolen or paid for — were not recovered. Despite the fact that Dorian Johnson, who witnessed the shooting, was identified in that report as a second suspect, he has not been charged.
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Originally Posted by bsmit24 View Post
Did you watch the video? Why was it edited before being released initially? If he did steal them then why did the store owner not report it? This whole incident just brings up more questions.
No I didn't. "streaming media" is blocked at work. I've seen the other videos several times though; and figured it was a repeat. I must be missing something.
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Originally Posted by John_Madison CT View Post
.....and herein lies the problem with Liberal thought.
What part is the "Liberal" thought?
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Whether he stole them or not he apparently broke the cops orbital socket.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...th-mike-brown/
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Originally Posted by ryan darrow View Post
No I didn't. "streaming media" is blocked at work. I've seen the other videos several times though; and figured it was a repeat. I must be missing something.
Don't know, it would be nice to see the entirety of the video unedited.
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Originally Posted by bsmit24 View Post
What part is the "Liberal" thought?


That you SO feel white guilt that you entertain the thought that he paid for the cigars.
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Here is the rap sheet for this baby boy and this is just since he turned 18 because we will never see his juvenile record. Looks like he was awaiting trial for felony charges. Wonder if that would have anything to do with his disdain for law enforcement? But he was such a good boy!!!!


Description: Burglary – 1st Degree { Felony B RSMo: 569.160 }
Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1401000
OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }
Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000
OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Assault 1st Degree – Serious Physical Injury { Felony A RSMo: 565.050 }
Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1301100
OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }
Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000
OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD
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