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Old 07-15-2014, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
Just finished reading my own post and became very embarrassed, what a freaking blow hard I can come across as sometimes.

My apologies to all, my son accomplishment have zero to do with this thread.
Nothing wrong with being proud of your son.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostShip View Post
Link was in the OP's article...pretty grainy

Boeing 707 Barrel Roll - Pilot Tex Johnston Performs Roll In Dash-80 Prototype Aircraft In 1955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaA7kPfC5Hk
The test pilot who did the first flight of the 777 in 1994 said that the president of the company called him in beforehand and said "no barrel rolls!! "
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What a beautiful and graceful bird. Boeing has every right to be very proud.
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Puts a smile on my face, Boeing is one of several large aviation/Engineering/Think tank corps that have been actively recruiting my son while in High school.

Great Company!

Great video.
Be sure he applies for the summer intern program. I believe it starts as college sophomore. It's a limited number and only the very, very best get it. Unless they really screw-up it's almost a guaranteed offer.
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:00 AM
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Man and his machines. Impressive.
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amazing

love youtube and how it leads to wasting time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P9OAng32F0
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Without seeing it next to a well known plane it's tough to tell how big it is. I know nothing about what the numbers mean but I always thought the higher the number the bigger the plane?

So is this 787 bigger than a 747?
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Originally Posted by jdm61 View Post
The test pilot did a barrel roll in the simulator but they took that out of the show. The film of Tex Johnston doing a barrel roll in the original Dash 80, the 707/KC135 prototype during its public debut at Seafair in 1955 is an all time classic.
And when the chairmen of Boeing asked Tex what the hell he thought he was doing, he said "selling airplanes sir"...awesome!
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
Without seeing it next to a well known plane it's tough to tell how big it is. I know nothing about what the numbers mean but I always thought the higher the number the bigger the plane?

So is this 787 bigger than a 747?
Boeing likes the 7_7 naming convention. (Started with 707)

747 is their largest and but that platform is larger than the 787, 777, 767, or 757.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:52 PM
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A great American company for sure. That's pretty impressive.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
Without seeing it next to a well known plane it's tough to tell how big it is. I know nothing about what the numbers mean but I always thought the higher the number the bigger the plane?

So is this 787 bigger than a 747?
It is primarily intended as a replacement for the 767 in the Boeing line, but it is sized more like the A330/340 planes from Airbus. The smallest one, the 787-8, seats like 240-250 which is what the last and largest of the 767 lines, the 767-400ER seated but with about 40% longer range. It is also the size of the A330-200 series and outranges it by 10-15%. That is the slot where the new A330 NEO will be able to compete at least in range. The 787-9 we saw this week seats about 280, which is in the same class as the A330-300 and the now apparently dead A350-800 which has about the same range as the 787-9, but carries 20 fewer passengers and has more powerful engines and weighs more which means it burns more fuel. The 787-10 is the one that a lot of airlines got exited about because it offers almost as much range as the same passenger load as the A350-900 and, perhaps just as important, the exact same belly cargo capacity. the biggest of the A350 WAS gong to compete in a lost between the 2 777 models, but with the new 777-8 and 9x, that may be tough because it has 2000 nmi less range that the 8x which seats the same and about 500 mmi less range and carries less belly cargo than the 9x which also carries like 60 more passengers.
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Most pilots never get to fly an empty plane with a light load of fuel. Power to weight ratio must be amazing.

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Originally Posted by rdmallory View Post
Most pilots never get to fly an empty plane with a light load of fuel. Power to weight ratio must be amazing.

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A few years back, someone had a Global Express at Vandeburg airport in Tmapa during lakeland Sun n' Fun airshow. It was a private jet because Vandeburg had kinda gotten screwed because the FAA said that their runway was no longer 5000 feet (the minimum for insurance purposes for charter jets) because of new "setback" rules. That plane is Bombadier's answer to the Gulfstream G5/550 and has a range of over 6000 nmi. When loaded light, it could take off in less than 2000 feet and climb as steep as what you saw the 787 do in the video. Fully fueled that plane weighs close to 50 tons. Empty, it comes in at closer to 26-27 tons.
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From watching the videos, looks like the aircraft can do great combat departures (probably needed in the future) , also, looks maneuverable enough to jink (maneuver to avoid) when locked onto by a SAM (with proper censors and flares installed).
Looks like a real good passenger airliner for today's world.


PS; this is all tongue in cheek, I hope.
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I have the very first tee shirt that was printed for the 787 Dream Liner.



My friend Steve aka Seapupy[ died ] worked for Boeing and he sent it to me.
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I think Denzel Washington was flying that plane
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
Just finished reading my own post and became very embarrassed, what a freaking blow hard I can come across as sometimes.

My apologies to all, my son accomplishment have zero to do with this thread.
No, it's Ok you should be proud!
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I have many,many flights in unloaded 787's,I can confirm it is an absolutly incredible experience, and the machine is like non other. It is the future incarnate.


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Old 07-18-2014, 12:26 PM
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I want one. Seriously, I've got to get me one of those.

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Originally Posted by Lordwrench View Post
I have many,many flights in unloaded 787's,I can confirm it is an absolutly incredible experience, and the machine is like non other. It is the future incarnate.


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Yeah, if you think about the idea that you can pretty much load up one of those long range airliners with the equivalent to its dry weight in fuel, passengers and cargo, there are going to be pretty peppy with 1/4 fuel and no warm bodies or pallets on board. As best as I can tell, the lightly loaded 787-9 has about the same thrust to weight ratio as say a combat loaded A4 Skyhawk.
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