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Old 06-12-2014, 06:01 PM
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The rear bearing in my front load washer went bad. Did some damage to the outer tub also. Parts alone are $600+ not including my time to replace it all or a service call. I bought a new washer for $650 + tax. When did major appliances become throw away items?
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I don't know, but I hate to hear this sort of thing. Our very first Kenmore washer and dryer that we bought when we first got married are still working. We will be married 20 years next month! Sure I've done some minor repairs over the years, but nothing major. She wants the "front loaders" and I am not sure we will get 5 years out of anything out there. If repairs are that costly, maybe I should stick with the old Kenmores!
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The washer that is on the verge of self destructing is a 12 year old Kenmore Elite HE3t front loader. We've never had any repair issues with the washer or dryer in that time.
I grabbed a brand new Whirlpool front loader with the hopes that the stacking hardware will match up. If not, I guess I'll be going back to get a new dryer too.

I'm super jealous of your new Kamodo.
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Ha! Go getcha one!

That sucks, but I am glad at least you got 12 years out of it. Been hearing a lot of people lucky to get 5!
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7 yrs on a bosch front loder, bearing went bad, told it was not worth fixing, bought new electrolux, good for 7 more years, you did good getting 12 yrs out of a washer
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Just got a Speed Queen washer and dryer. One washes clothes and the other one dries them...that's it....and they do it quickly. They are "old school" appliances like the ones other companies used to make with the best warranty I have seen. Tired of all the computer controlled, water saving, actuating HE pieces of crap.
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Just got a Speed Queen washer and dryer. One washes clothes and the other one dries them...that's it....and they do it quickly. They are "old school" appliances like the ones other companies used to make with the best warranty I have seen. Tired of all the computer controlled, water saving, actuating HE pieces of crap.
Exactly - I refuse to buy any of that shiny stuff with lots of buttons. Give me an old school syle combo with real mechanical relays any day over the electronic controlled new stuff. Who cares what your wash room looks like? No one.

We are suckers for shiny things with buttons. The more money we have, the bigger suckers we are. Look at fridges for example - the basic $700 old school top and bottom unit keeps ice frozen and beer cold. Be we need a Chef's fridge that cost 5k... we need SS dishwashers, ovens, microwaves... fancy stuff that is designed to do one thing and one thing only - empty our wallets.

Don't get me wrong - I like all of fancy things as well - and I would by them if they were built as good as they look. But they are not - and they are certainly not 5x better than the standard ole school jobbers.

My fridge just blew up - we were away for 5 days and came home to a completely defrosted freezer full of fish. The smell was - well beyond words. I picked up a used 21cuft top and bottom unit with ice maker for $40. It was one year old and never used... I refuse to spend the coin on new crap.
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Just like boats the electronics are driving the prices up
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My mother has an avocado green refrigerator in the basement from the late 70s, that's used for beer and large left overs, hams, turkeys etc. She has been through 4-5 modern ones in the kitchen during that period. The newest one has the tech out about once every 6 months for some sort of control board. It's not about improving the appliance, it's about selling new ones and service calls. The old stuff was built to last.
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I finally had to "retire" my old (30+) washer last year. The thing is heavy, almost couldn't tip it to get it on the hand truck by myself. Bought a "new" washer and dryer off Craigslist for $150, works great.

Speed Queen is getting a lot of advertising around here and seems to be as reliable as the old ones with good capacity. If I were to buy new, I'd give SQ a good look.
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New appliances are engineered to fail 3 days after warranty expires. Most are good for 7 years max.
Not like the old days when Dad fixed the toaster.
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I just recently had to replace a 17plus year old whirlpool washer, what a culture shock, now it's buttons and no agitators, and guarantee you this thing will not see 5 years
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Originally Posted by jetboat69 View Post
New appliances are engineered to fail 3 days after warranty expires. Most are good for 7 years max.
Not like the old days when Dad fixed the toaster.
What's your source for that information?
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I have a Kenmore washer and dryer that have lasted me 20+ yrs. I've had to repair each a couple times, but with the exception of the dryer motor, each repair has cost me less than $30 in parts. The only repair above that amt was the dryer motor which cost me $135. I did all repairs myself. I have 3 appliances that are only 7 yrs old and none of those have required a repair. My stove / oven is 16 yrs old and has required two repairs, for a grand total of $40 in parts.

I've heard a lot of negative things about front loaders. I'd never buy one. And maybe you should think about buying your appliances somewhere else.
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Its not large appliance but I was just thinking the Braun hand blender I use for mixing protein shakes is about 25 years old now. Bet I wouldnt get three years out of a new one.
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In today's dollars, appliances cost three to five times more in the late 50's versus today, appliances have never been cheaper.

Appliances are much more efficient today than even 30 years ago. Especially refrigerators, but also washers nd dryers. So much so that the energy savings alone may cover the cost of the appliance over its life.

Today's appliances are built with $1 an hour labor. Yesterday's were built with American labor making them more expensive and worth fixing. Not any more.

My 16 yo fridge is now in the garage running strong. My 12 yo front load washer is still working fine as is the dryer. I think some people have bad luck with their stuffer don't maintain it. Some people don't even know about cleaning coils on a fridge.

Complex electronics do seem to cause issues. I think this is more tied into efficiency as my moms old washer from 35 years ago had plenty of settings using a manual dial.
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2 years old are $700 Samsung front loader and the same thing happened. No help from manufacturer through the machine away
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Here's a hint - control board failures are a common cause of repairs/replacements. Make sure your washer is on a surge protector. The single-circuit models work pretty well, and will fit in tight spaces.
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Here's a hint - control board failures are a common cause of repairs/replacements. Make sure your washer is on a surge protector. The single-circuit models work pretty well, and will fit in tight spaces.
That, or buy a washer that has old-style electro-mechanical controls. Haven't seen a benefit to having a computer-controlled washing machine with digital displays.
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It's not about improving the appliance, it's about selling new ones and service calls. The old stuff was built to last.
It depends what you measure of "improving appliances" is.
For the manufacturers, the major one is meeting the ever increasing energy efficiency requirements - which requires lighter weight and less durable components.
Every manufacturer can built a durable and well performing appliance - they can't do it and meet the high efficiency requirements. The government's calculus is that in 10 years a high efficiency machine will save you enough energy to pay for 75% of the cost of a new machine, so replacing it every 10 years isn't unreasonable.
Just think, under the new Obama/EPA fuel regulations for cars, this is what we have to look forward to with our 50 mpg cars and 35 mpg trucks.
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