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Old 08-09-2005, 01:49 PM
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I sure could use some input on this one. The neighors dog are at it again, there killing my birds, and this time I caught them. This is not the first time, or the second any everytime I speak to the owner the problem stops for a few months, he ties them up. Well now they're running free. I really don't want to shoot the dogs but I feel thats what it's going to take. I don't think I want to try to talk again, as my fuse is very short on this one. We've had problems in the past over his kids and four wheelers paths they cut on my property. That also took repeated confrontations and drift net anchors to rectify. Before I come off as boundary watching, I've told them in the past, thier dogs can piss on every tire I got as long as they don't kill nothing, and their kids a go anywhere on foot. Please tell me what you would do, I do have a ugly side, just hate to use it anymore.
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Tough call. If the dogs are viscous and could be dangerous to humans, I'd blow em away. If they are pets that are being "mischevious" it would be harder for me to do. Personally I'd try the law at least one time and let em' go talk with him. However, not knowing your neighbors I don't know if you would be subject to retaliation. BTW, there ain't a thing wrong with "boundry watching". You paid for the property, it's yours. Sounds to me like you have offered to be very fair.

One other thought is some ingenious way to scare the hell out of the dogs. You can buy trip lines that shoot 12 guage and .308 blanks. Might be an option. Here's the link. They work.

http://www.hi-vel.com/Catalog__17/Pe...ms___acce.html
Old 08-09-2005, 02:14 PM
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youve done the christian thing and turned you cheek (cheeks?), but now its time to let the authorities do what your tax dollars pay for.
Old 08-09-2005, 02:20 PM
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Photo's speak a thousand words. If you can't catch the mutts with a hand held camera than you can buy either automatic timed or motion sensored field cameras, get them on film and go straight to the cops and tell them right out this must stop or dogs are going to die if they don't fine the owner and quarantine the dogs, also make him pay for the dead livestock. I was told by an animal control officer in my town that you have a right to protect your people, property and livestock and that includes by leathel force if neccessary. Asfore the kids I wouldn't let any of them on the property by foot or anything else. If one gets hurt guess who gets sued. Goodluck.
Old 08-09-2005, 04:40 PM
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Call the law. You have given him every chance. Once a dog starts killing chichens they aren't going to stop until they are out of chichens or the dogs are penned up.

I can speak with a bit of expirience. I've had dogs and I have had chichens. One night the neighbors dogs broke into the chichen coup and killed something like 25 hens and 2 roosters. However the dogs where not smart enough to get out of the coup before morning. I trapped them in the coup and called the law. Upshot of it was, my neighbor had to pay me for the birds. This wasn't the first time I had a run in with the guy. I had tried to explain to him before that his dogs where killing my chichens, but according to him it thier was no way it was his dogs. It remained that way until I caught them in the coup.
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Oh, boy...So sorry you're having this trouble.

Down here in Texas we live by the "code of the country". If my dog is on YOUR property and is A: causing harm to ANY of your livestock or family, then by all means feel free to shoot it. No hard feelings. I will definitely do the same if YOUR dog is on my property and chasing my cows, kids, etc...

That's just the way it goes down here, but you have to understand that we have LOTS of acreage between properties and are not always sure whose dogs are whose around here. As a matter of fact, our own dog followed a stray female about a month ago over somewhere close to our neighbor's house up the road a ways and we heard shots. Our first thought was "Uh-oh~ Cowboy's a gonner", but later that evening he returned. However, he did later go away and died somewhere (heart problems), but at least he went "happy" -

Anyway - best thing to do is call the authorities - especially if you are not on that great of terms with the neighbors. AND - do like the above posts state - catch the dogs in action and by all means do NOT allow their kids on your property. It's neighbors like that that will look for ANY EXCUSE to call a lawyer and sue your arse. UGH~!

Let us know how it all goes and best of luck to ya~!
Old 08-09-2005, 05:47 PM
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Good fences make good neighbors. If thats not an option, shoot the neighbor
first, then the dogs. Just make sure they're all on your side of the property
line when they hit the ground.
Old 08-09-2005, 06:18 PM
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When I first read the post my first reaction was to just shoot the dogs; however, since you've complained to the neighbor before, he would immediately know who axed his dogs and retaliate in some way, shape, or form. Call the law...that way someone else will know of the problem and maybe prepare a remedy for you. We have a small tract of acreage in West Point, TX where we run a few cattle, have parties, fish, etc. A couple years ago we went out there and noticed two skinny looking dogs roaming about. Now mind you we had just had a fresh number of calves born and I wasn't going to let a mangy dog eat any of our profits...so I shot the heck out of them with my .280 and a 9mm. I love dogs and believe me I felt serious remorse and I swore that I'd never do that again. My situation was different from yours because the owner was apparently not around and because of the split second, non-premeditated action that I took.

As for the unwanted trespass of ATVs, cover their trails with big obstacles and if they cut new trails lay some inconspicuous spike strips made of naturally occuring materials (if you were from Texas, I'd suggest mesquite thorns.) Four flat tires would likely be a good deterent. To be legal, however, call the law.
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Thanks for the input everyone. I don't put much faith in our authorities around here, it seems if you ain't kin, your out of luck. After venting here, I waited on the admiral to come home and talk to the neighbors. (she's not as high strung as myself) They have promised to pen the dogs, and have acknowledged that they're aware I'll shoot to kill next time. The code of the country has dissapeered faster than the country here. Unbelievable growth has changed this area almost beyond recognition.
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Yup, you got that right and the growth ain't for the better in my opinion, but that's another topic all together.
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Hope things work out for you and twentynine.......what's a CHICHEN? Is that the chickens ugly cousin......kinda like the freckle and the mole.
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when I was younger, the neighbors at my mom and dads house are from Pakistan

they had every farm animal known to man

we talked to them all the time,

they had two cows,

my parents ran a berry farm, from raspberries, blueberries strawberry's, black raspberry's etc.

the neighbor would sneak and let cows come over and eat...

we warned him 3 separate times.. this is a business not a free area.. they were losing not just the berries but the whole plants as well.

called the police 2 times, every time the police came they didn't speak any English...
after just getting told off by them in English and threatened violence before the police arrived.

SO, I waited and watched in the middle of the night.. with my fav rifle.

I see him sneak out about 12 am and LEAD his cows to our acres...

I see him go back in his house....


two shots..

the neighbor comes out about 3 am finds two dead cows boy is he pissed.

called the police,

I hid the rifle, and was already in bed sound asleep, had no idea what he was talking about...

he called the police,

Funny thing is it was a the same police officers again...

first words from them was YOU LEARNED ENGLISH in less than a day???

They had to hire a front end loader to get rid of the cows...

nice as pie after that and never spoke to me from that day on..

I grew up animals live and they die..

if it was me I would warn them one last time... then its open season..

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you better make sure you are covered from a legal standpoint before you shoot the dogs.....you can't shoot dogs just for being on your property, you have to be threatened by them.

(in other words, after you shoot 'em, make sure you tell animal control that they growled at you!!!)

i'm assuming you can kill animals that threaten livestock as well, but i don't know if your chickens would technically be considered "livestock" if the case were to go to court.

i had a neighbor who shot my other neighbor's dog for running around in his yard....the dog's owner always let them run loose in our neighborhood, and after numerous warnings (one was quite heated) about the dogs, the guy got fed up and shot one....honestly, i don't blame him, but he got fined and was taken to court, and he lost because when animal control showed up and asked him if he shot the dog, he responded with "damn right i did, it was in my yard!" what he didn't know at that time is that he didn't have the right to shoot it unless he felt threatened.

my uncle had a$$hole neighbors who would always let their pitbulls roam free.....they weren't friendly dogs, and after about 20 phone calls to animal control, they finally gave him traps. he trapped 2 of the dogs and the animal control officer came and took them...the owners had to pay a fine to get them back ($500 a piece i think). but for the most part, animal control couldn't do much of anything unless they came by and actually saw the dogs on the property. to be honest, they were basically worthless...however, they did tell him that if he shot the dogs, he better make sure they were dead and didn't go back to their owner's property and then die.....it was a mess.

i hope it all works out for you somehow, but you gotta make sure your butt is covered before you do ANYTHING.




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That's how I spell chicken after I been out on the boat all day, and I don't go back and chech mie spillen. ;? ;? ;? ;?
Old 08-10-2005, 09:20 AM
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It makes one wonder just how much help you can get from the authorities when needed???
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twentynine - 8/10/2005 7:05 AM

That's how I spell chicken after I been out on the boat all day, and I don't go back and chech mie spillen. ;? ;? ;? ;?
You tell 'em David.. I don't care how you spell Chicken, just as you don't have Choke, Chokin or Doing anywhere before or after...
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If your are going to pop the dogs make certain the blood splatter is in the chicken house........you should also put some feathers in its mouth just for good measure. Happy hunting.
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State law in La. says that if you shoot a dog under those conditions you can be charged with cruelty to an animal, the only way to legally handle it is with the intervention of law enforcement.
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Had a friend who had the same thing happen to him. He put the dog in a burlap sack with the dead chickens and then beat the tar out of the whole shooting match with a stout (not deadly) stick. According to him the offending dog now makes a VERY wide detour around the birds. Seems kinda cruel but hey better than killing em outright.
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Do dogs make good chum?

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