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Old 03-19-2014, 07:48 AM
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Really ! Allow perp option to leave ...

This kinda came out of the blue , but here goes

An acquaintance (just finished his CWP training)said " You have to allow an intruder in your home the option to leave before using deadly force "

Really ? when did this change ???
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
Really ! Allow perp option to leave ...

This kinda came out of the blue , but here goes

An acquaintance (just finished his CWP training)said " You have to allow an intruder in your home the option to leave before using deadly force "

Really ? when did this change ???
Ccw instructors are gun safety teachers not lawyers. If in Florida buy the latest version of Florida Firearms by Job Gutmacher, esq.
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
Really ! Allow perp option to leave ...

This kinda came out of the blue , but here goes

An acquaintance (just finished his CWP training)said " You have to allow an intruder in your home the option to leave before using deadly force "

Really ? when did this change ???
Technically they still leave, just zipped up.
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Yep, that's what was covered in our NC class. Instructor kinda hinted it would be in every bodies best interest to have entry wounds in front and only one story to the authorities.
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If he is deceased, he is unable to say whether you afforded him the opportunity to leave or not. Correct?
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Castle doctrine is pretty clear. After I check and double check that I don't know you and you are in my house unwelcomed, you will be terminated!
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
Really ! Allow perp option to leave ...

This kinda came out of the blue , but here goes

An acquaintance (just finished his CWP training)said " You have to allow an intruder in your home the option to leave before using deadly force "

Really ? when did this change ???
Not sure where you are, but that's not the law in FL.

However, what they may be getting at is that is that you are allowed to use deadly force to stop a threat. An intruder that sees the armed homeowner and turns to leave, is likely not posing a threat anymore.

Entry wounds in the back with the perp clearly heading for an exit would be problematic legally. That may be what they were hinting at. Not that you actually need to converse with the perp and present them the option.
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but he told me he was going to get his gun
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Varies from state to state
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
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I try to resolve conflict with words rather than violence.

Just give him respect and you will receive it.
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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
Yep, that's what was covered in our NC class. Instructor kinda hinted it would be in every bodies best interest to have entry wounds in front and only one story to the authorities.
Glad we have the Castle Doctrine now. Using equal force and retreating until you can't run any farther was BS.
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
Really ! Allow perp option to leave ...

This kinda came out of the blue , but here goes

An acquaintance (just finished his CWP training)said " You have to allow an intruder in your home the option to leave before using deadly force "

Really ? when did this change ???
You'd rather kill the intruder then let them leave and defuse the situation?

I don't want a dead person, perp or not, on my conscience if there was a safe way for them to be removed from the situation..
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Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
You'd rather kill the intruder then let them leave and defuse the situation?

I don't want a dead person, perp or not, on my conscience if there was a safe way for them to be removed from the situation..
Question: When is the situation defused?
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Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
You'd rather kill the intruder then let them leave and defuse the situation?

I don't want a dead person, perp or not, on my conscience if there was a safe way for them to be removed from the situation..

Huh, so when the next victim is killed by the intruder you let go, it won't bother you?
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Originally Posted by cedarholm View Post
Question: When is the situation defused?
The same way you know you're in fear of your life you'll know when the situation is defused... When the intruder is out of your home and running down the street are they still a threat?
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Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
The same way you know you're in fear of your life you'll know when the situation is defused... When the intruder is out of your home and running down the street are they still a threat?
Maybe not to you but how about a mother down that same street in her home with 2 infant children?
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Originally Posted by Shag View Post
Huh, so when the next victim is killed by the intruder you let go, it won't bother you?
So now you're protecting the "next" victim from some future crime?
You are not the judge jury and executioner...

I personally would not want a dead person, perp or unfortunate victim, on my conscience when there was a safe way to let them go...
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Originally Posted by Cobb View Post
Maybe not to you but how about a mother down that same street in her home with 2 infant children?
Understood, from now on I'm shooting any stranger running toward the house down the street with infant children... Are two infants the minimum or is one enough?
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I couldn't sleep at night knowing I let a dangerous felon go only to find out he did harm to others because of my inaction. But, to each their own.

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