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Old 02-24-2014, 05:49 PM
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Question Anyone own a front loading washing machine? Must read !!

We have a Bosch front loader and since the day it was new, it always stayed wet around the front seal, would leave your clothes smelling moldy if you didn't take them out and dry them right away, and the inside of the drum smelled moldy. We would have to prop open the door after use to help dry it out. Well tonight on the world news I see that the supreme court is allowing a class action lawsuit against Sears, Whirlpool, & Bosch.

All I can find on the internet is articles about the Supreme court ruling, but nothing on which models are affected or if and where to join this class action suit. We never thought about this being a widespread issue and thought this was a tough break for us. We never had a front loader before.

Anyone know how to find out which models might be affected or how to let others know there are more of us out there then they might not know about, and where to join this fight?

Thanks !!

Here's one article......

Whirlpool, Sears, and Bosch are each currently involved in class-action lawsuits over alleged defects in various front-loading washing machines that may have allowed for mold to build up.

In petitioning the Supremes, the manufacturers each contended that there were too many variables involved to classify a specific class of damaged consumers.

“[T]here are 21 different products with different designs that affect the odor issue,” wrote Whirlpool in its Oct. 2013 petition to the court. “Injury and causation cannot be determined on a common basis because most Washer owners never experienced moldy odors and there are many potential causes of odors apart from the alleged defect.”

All three manufacturers were hanging their hopes on a recent Supreme Court decision in which the court ruled against a massive class-action against Comcast. In that case, the court determined there were too few common factors among the plaintiffs to properly certify them as a class.

But this morning, court denied without explanation all three petitions to hear the washing machine lawsuits, thus allowing lower-court decisions on these cases to stand.

Today’s denials come as a big surprise in light of the court’s recent history.

In addition to the Comcast case, the court came down against consumers’ right to a class action in 2011, ruling that AT&T could not only force customers into binding arbitration with a few sentences buried deep in a contract, but that they could also use these arbitration clauses to deny access to class complaints.

Then last year, the Supremes ruled in the American Express v Italian Colors Restaurant case that a harmed customer can not claim an “effective vindication” exception to get around a class-action ban.

In that case, a merchant wanted to prove that some of Amex’s business practices were anticompetitive and violated federal law. However, proving that case would have cost the plaintiff more than it could have received through arbitration. It contended that it needed to be able to combine its complaint with those of other affected parties in order to defray the cost of presenting its case. However, a split Supreme Court ruled that the Federal Arbitration Act “does not permit courts to invalidate a contractual waiver of class arbitration on the ground that the plaintiff’s cost of individually arbitrating a federal statutory claim exceeds the potential recovery.”

The three petitions denied today were Whirlpool Corp. v Glazer; Sears, Roebuck and Company v. Butler; and BSH Home Appliances Corp. v Cobb.
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Good, just bought a large Maytag top loader works great.
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Have owned front loaders for years.

Yes, leave the door open (if you have to prop it open, then yer floor is off plumb; sue the home builder); or you might get some stank.

Big deal.




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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Have owned front loaders for years.

Yes, leave the door open (if you have to prop it open, then yer floor is off plumb; sue the home builder); or you might get some stank.

Big deal.




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Ditto

We have had one for 15 years, its not rocket science, just leave the door open. Heck even my grandmother left the door open on here's...............40 years ago
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I have a Maytag front loader and its everything the lawsuit describes.
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The wife has used a front loader for 6 or 7 years already, we are on our 3rd one
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We have an lg front loader no stank
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Originally Posted by Fordy View Post
I have a Maytag front loader and its everything the lawsuit describes.
maytag was our first one. it was junk.
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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Have owned front loaders for years.

Yes, leave the door open (if you have to prop it open, then yer floor is off plumb; sue the home builder); or you might get some stank.

Big deal.




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Same here. Kenmore (can't recall the model name). When all the kids were living at home, it went all day long. Still works fine, just don't leave the door closed.
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It's the EPA's fault. Minimal amounts of water that's way too cold + biodegradable (porous) plastics + eco-friendly detergents = mold growth.







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Finally got rid of our lg pos and went back to top loader. Felt bad for the poor slob I sold it to
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the only people who win in class actions are the lawyers

we have a whirlpool front loader and the bearings are the issue, not mold…biggest waste of money ever
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Originally Posted by willie g View Post
the only people who win in class actions are the lawyers

we have a whirlpool front loader and the bearings are the issue, not mold…biggest waste of money ever
If you don't get the dreaded F-11 code error first...maybe that was the fix to preserve the bearings.;?
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We have a front load whirlpool just leave the door open after a load and run bleach through it on the sanitizer setting 1X a month and never had an issue
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I had a custom home built and in it is a washer dryer area that will only allow a stacked pair of top loaders.

I have no stink or problems. Poor little ol me... Who am I going to sue now?


WTF happens when you leave an unplugged refrigerator with the door closed? No air circulation just like a waterproof seal on a front loader washer. Are people really this effin stupid?
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I know an appliance repairman. He loves front loaders.
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Same Kenmore He3t front loader since the model was first sold. Always left the door open and never had a problem with mold. Our salesman even told us to leave it open before we bought it. Just seems like common sense to leave it open when it's a watertight sealed machine.
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I am partial to the organic 'earthy' smell on my cloths.
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Had my Samsung front loader since '05 or '06. Never left the door open and never had any mold/stink. Every third or fourth load is whites with bleach.;?
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Originally Posted by PeteH View Post
Had my Samsung front loader since '05 or '06. Never left the door open and never had any mold/stink. Every third or fourth load is whites with bleach.;?
Same here..no problem with my Samsung.

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