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Old 02-23-2014, 10:50 PM
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Ok so this may be a silly question with no real good answer. My buddy has a house on a lake and his dock is in just a couple feet of water so he wants to do some dredging. Problem is he doesn't want to get permits and all that crap and hire a company. Is there anyway or setup to do a little under the radar dredging operation?
Old 02-23-2014, 11:29 PM
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fire up the outboard and blow it out. honestly this is what the sportfishers do that have slips in the salt ponds. They also make "trolling stablizers"? that attach to the cavitation plate like a hydrofoil and direct water flow downwards

http://outboardmotorspricesforsale.b...ing-plate.html
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Don't post it on here.
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Problem solved.

http://www.dredgeandpittrader.com/?id=2
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:33 AM
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For a customer I fabricated a trash pump with the outflow directed under the lift, lowering the lift blew out built up sand. dredging is regulated due to spoil coming in contact with the air then being re-immersed. solve that issue and your good to go..
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Only thing harder to hide than an oil slick is a mud cloud in the water. Solve that (too) and you're good to go.
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You can go down to the local sunbelt or whatever rental company and rent a dredge. The city guys don't work on Sunday so rent it Saturday and set it all up. I bought some of the fence that has a buoy on top and weights on the bottom and threw that around my runoff area to protect my sawgrass from silt also.

Around here it's really low tides in February so that's a good time for me. I pump into the back of a trailer with a tarp inside that keeps it from leaking out quickly. The trailer needs to be large enough that the sand can settle from the wash before the water runs out the top. Unless you have a lot of time to shovel the trailer should dump also because its very heavy stuff.

Haul it away and hit the yard with a hose. Smaller than 4" is too slow, bigger is too heavy for me.
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City, County, State, Feds coming by and catching you I wouldn't worry about.

I'd worry about my neighbors and "friends".
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Local marina by me has this "PLOW" with an inboard that pushes it's way to the channel, he does this in early spring and late fall (I suspect also in the evening during summer as it fills back in). He just plows his way through. Must have a draft of 4' on this thing.
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Trash pump with a de-watering pit on land works. My buddy used my 2" trash pump but a 3" would have worked better due to the small stones.
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I've also seen a dredging bladder which allows you to pump material in and that allow the water to quickly drain, leaving only the silt behind. This would be set up on land or barge of course.

http://www.erosionpollution.com/dewatering_bags.html

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Done Deals, do you work for Dredge Central by chance? I know those folks, good company.
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I saw somewhere on here that Pinnacle Marine is selling Dredge Kits...;?

Like others have mentioned... run the engines on an outgoing tide.
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Is it possible to just extend the pier out an additional 20 or so feet into deeper water???????
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Done Deals, do you work for Dredge Central by chance? I know those folks, good company.
No, that site was #1 on Google search.
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Like someone said I'd worry more about pissing off a neighbor who follows the regulations.
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Go out at night with a shovel.
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I have seen it done with a power washer...
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Originally Posted by nccoaster View Post
Go out at night with a shovel.
Funny you say that. My parents neighbor did that for months at low tide.

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