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NASCAR fans, school me. I don't get it.

Old 02-14-2014, 06:25 PM
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Default NASCAR fans, school me. I don't get it.

NASCAR fans look down on formula one for the most part, and vice versa. I understand it from the f1 guys I guess, but maybe the allure of NASCAR is just lost on me.

Can somebody explain it? My roommate in college tried. He loved it. He would sit in his comfy chair with a 12 pack of Milwaukees best next to him (on the floor not in the fridge) and watch a race all afternoon.

Is it the fact that they're "real cars"? Versus the race cars that is.

I'm not talking about going to the event, I get that. Its just a huge party with loud powerful cars and lots of beer drinking. Can't knock that. But to watch guys turn left on tv for hours?

Edumucate me!
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Old 02-14-2014, 06:42 PM
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It's boring. Period. Just as boring as F1 and IRL.
There was a time and period that the fans really personally identified with the sponsors, drivers, and type of car. (Ford, Chevy, Dodge etc..) That was where the allure came from and there's still some remnants of it, but that's it.
Today it's mostly corporate $$$. Every driver could walk out on stage and fit through the same cut out.
Racing wise the entire program is geared toward the highest dollar teams getting to the front before the green flag drops. Which makes it boring.

I was a very successful, stock car, race track owner for 7 years. Asphalt and dirt. It was a short track. If you want to see racing go and support your local short track. You will find a lot of what your room mate in college was trying to share with you.
I recommend a dirt track.
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Has to do with the history of NASCAR racing....it all started out with running races with the modified stock cars the moonshine runners used to outrun the law while they were runnin' shine....
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F1 - An Ecclestone way to con money out of people, where the outcome is rigged and they change the rules to decide who wins.

NASCAR - A France family run way to con money out of people, where the outcome is rigged and they change the rules to decide who wins.
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You don't like left turns?
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You don't like left turns?
Must have come from New Jersey!
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We ain't figured it out either. Millions of dollars and it takes them 500 miles to do what we do in 4.4 seconds and with a lot more Hp than they have to.
"Drag racers joke"

Nothing stock about the cars. Only the carbon fiber or fiberglass bodies that look like the cars themselves are even close to being what they represent.
The lure of it is the cars are so closely matched the race is actually interesting and the skill of the driver and his luck to stay out of wrecks on that day, has more to do with where they finish than what HP or kind of car they are driving. A look at the poll position will let you know just how close these cars are to each other.
Where the redneck lure comes in, its a good gathering for those that drink to spend time together watching it and if your lucky enough to spend several nights at the track before the race you get to stay drunk the entire time, with others that feel its cool to do the same and a high priced fee for being there to start with and getting in the race. But you have a purpose.. Your a round track redneck. O ya, and push your own charm on a grill for those around you.

With speeds above what most of you yourself have ever experienced its also a lure to watch what others do with what you drive every day. Even if they are full built race car chassis's and aftermarket body's. Most can relate to it in that way .
The wrecks, pushing, bumping, all come into the excitement of who with cars that close together will be the one to finish.

Its a round track race that is well promoted that cost millions to be involved in.
Its watching others do what you can't do and being able to feel your part of it if you pull for your favorite guy.
Don't worry. I don't get it either............

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Like any sport others may find boring like, golf, tennis, curling, bowling, luge, baseball, basketball, football, drag racing, (or even internet forums) the more you understand what the driver, player, participator is going through and how they got there, the more interesting it can be.
To view something "cold", you only see the surface of the sport and it can seem too simple and not worth investigating further.



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real men do it in the dirt--
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Originally Posted by 240 LTS View Post
Like any sport others may find boring like, golf, tennis, curling, bowling, luge, baseball, basketball, football, drag racing, (or even internet forums) the more you understand what the driver, player, participator is going through and how they got there, the more interesting it can be.
To view something "cold", you only see the surface of the sport and it can seem too simple and not worth investigating further.



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I'm from NC and I don't get it either.
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It's boring. Period. Just as boring as F1 and IRL.
There was a time and period that the fans really personally identified with the sponsors, drivers, and type of car. (Ford, Chevy, Dodge etc..) That was where the allure came from and there's still some remnants of it, but that's it.
Today it's mostly corporate $$$. Every driver could walk out on stage and fit through the same cut out.
Racing wise the entire program is geared toward the highest dollar teams getting to the front before the green flag drops. Which makes it boring.

I was a very successful, stock car, race track owner for 7 years. Asphalt and dirt. It was a short track. If you want to see racing go and support your local short track. You will find a lot of what your room mate in college was trying to share with you.
I recommend a dirt track.
BINGO!

I've watched NASCAR evolve from a crappy old office around the corner from the Boot Hill saloon in Daytona to the "show" it is today. Saw a beach race as a kid. Went to events right after they opened the superspeedway. Back then, it was Fireball Roberts, Fred Lorenzen, whoever, in the #22 car. No sponsor name was necessarily mentioned, but everyone knew it was a Woods Brothers or Stephens Pontiac car,

Now, it's the "Home Depot Chevrolet", and the driver may get a mention. Cars are all bunched up for hours. If there's a breakaway, "debris on the track"rbeunites the pack.

Formula 1..stupid expensive and complex. Aerodynamics have eliminated wheel to wheel racing.

Got friends going to Daytona today. Real race guys..one a driver, the other worked on a NASCAR crew. What are they watching? The ARCA race!
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The allure of NASCAR is lost on me as well. Seems like a ton of fuel burned and not a single fish in the box.
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Went way downhill since they quit letting em "run what you brung". For some reason they decided to make all the cars the same. Boring as hell ever since.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
BINGO!

I've watched NASCAR evolve from a crappy old office around the corner from the Boot Hill saloon in Daytona to the "show" it is today. Saw a beach race as a kid. Went to events right after they opened the superspeedway. Back then, it was Fireball Roberts, Fred Lorenzen, whoever, in the #22 car. No sponsor name was necessarily mentioned, but everyone knew it was a Woods Brothers or Stephens Pontiac car,

Now, it's the "Home Depot Chevrolet", and the driver may get a mention. Cars are all bunched up for hours. If there's a breakaway, "debris on the track"rbeunites the pack.

Formula 1..stupid expensive and complex. Aerodynamics have eliminated wheel to wheel racing.

Got friends going to Daytona today. Real race guys..one a driver, the other worked on a NASCAR crew. What are they watching? The ARCA race!
Number 22... Holman Moody prepared, lavender, Ford driven by Fireball Roberts.

The day I heard he died stands out just like JFK or 9/11 to me. Fifty years later, I can tell you where I was when I heard that news.

Today if it is a rainy Sunday afternoon and no golf is on, I will watch a NASCAR race.

Kinda sad where NASCAR has gone.
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Went way downhill since they quit letting em "run what you brung". For some reason they decided to make all the cars the same. Boring as hell ever since.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner....!!!!
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Walk down the front stretch at Daytona, towards turn 4, about the second lap after they've gone green.
You'll understand.
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NASCAR died when this guy died....

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Originally Posted by coastboater View Post
Walk down the front stretch at Daytona, towards turn 4, about the second lap after they've gone green.
You'll understand.
Live I bet its a blast. I said that In my original post. Any major sporting event is fun, the energy makes it exciting.

The marketing minds behind it give roger goodell a run for his money. They have done an outstanding job attracting money into the sport (and into the owners pockets).
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Two things right recently have just put a nail in the coffin for nascar for me.
Both concerning Danica Patrick.
At the Nascar awards, the one party that is suppose to be for everyone to come together as a group the comedy guy aimed his show at her which I would have been outraged.. To allow that guy to do that at their once a year party was so crud I can't believe anyone other than rednecks would tune in now. .

The suppose to be king of Nascar > Richard Petty
Seen a comment Richard Petty made about Danica Patrick which was so rude I responded to the post I seen it on reminding him we run more HP on the street than he did when you got out of racing and I always figured he was a redneck but he sure took any doubts about it with that statement.
Comment was only way for her to win was the rest to stay at home..
Doesn't matter what your thoughts are when you attack your own, that has not caused your team any issue's or grief that really showed how much of a ass he thinks he is. If I were Danica I'd take out one of his cars for the hell of it now. Act like a fool I can treat you like a fool...
Nascar with those that are suppose to be looked upon as the kings and act like this has turned it into the WWW Friday night mentality .
Last guy that talked shit about another pro drag racer was big daddy and Sherly kicked his ass and he's been trying to hang on to what he was before that ever since.
Want to see a respectable bunch of guys in high HP racing,, its what its all about is Drag Racing.
If its raining , cold nothing else to do sure i'll watch it but could not begin to tell you whos up top.
To enjoy a sport those that are in it have to respect it and their own and it just don' happen any more in Nascar.
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