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Old 12-31-2013, 07:11 AM
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Lead plant closes. Think Ammo and batteries will go even higher? A plan from the government to tighten the grips on gun owners even more?????


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Old 12-31-2013, 07:46 AM
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Lots of conspiracy theory here from the right wing gun nuts. The smelting plant dumped untold amounts of toxins into the ground and air. They had the option of cleaning up their plant but chose to close it instead.

I've read a couple of articles about the bullets, and it sound like they are going 1 of 2 ways. Obtaining lead from overseas, or using a another metal in the core. Copper has been thrown around as a possible replacement, but could cause the cost to rise 5-10%. Lead from overseas could be cheaper due to the difference in labor and lighter environmental regulations.
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I was having this conversation with a buddy on another forum and he sent me these links.... straight from Sierra Bullets:

http://sierrabullets.wordpress.com/2...ierra-bullets/

We asked Sierra Bullets Plant Engineer Darren Leskiw, “How will the closure of the lead smelting plant affect Sierra Bullets?”
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We have had many customers contact us about the closing of the last primary lead smelting facility in the USA. This facility is operated by Doe Run and is located in Herculaneum, MO and is just about a 3 hour drive from our facility in Sedalia, MO.

The main question asked is “Will this shut down your supply of lead?” The answer to that is no. First, Sierra buys lead from several different vendors to maintain constant supply. Second, this facility only smelts primary lead or lead ore. This is lead ore that has just been brought out of the earth. Sierra uses no primary lead at all and never has, so we use nothing directly from this facility. The lead we buy from Doe Run comes from their recycling facility in Boss, MO that is about 90 miles away from the smelter that is closing.

The facility we buy from is still going strong and delivering to us as scheduled. The lead from this facility is from recycled lead, mostly coming from car batteries. This is a continuing “in and out” cycle for them and the smelter closing will not affect this facility.

Our supply should not be in jeopardy and we do not anticipate any changes in our supply chain at this time. Could the lack of primary lead create a little more demand for recycled lead? Sure, but how much is unknown. Could this increase in demand also create an increase in price? Sure, but again, by how much is unknown at this time.

There are many other primary lead smelters in the world and so the flow of primary lead will not be shut off. Where there is a need for primary lead, I am sure there will be a salesman more than happy to pick up the business.

In short, we do not see any reason for alarm. We expect our supply to continue and keep feeding our production lines which are still running 24 hours per day to return our inventory levels to where they should be.

Another pretty good read, too long to quote:
politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/dec/03/allen-west/allen-west-blames-obamas-epa-closing-smelter-evide/
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:27 AM
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The real threat to lead production is the wholesale adoption of the electric car. There are lead substitutes. Lead is the nastiest element you can think of. If it were radioactive it would still be less toxic than it already is.
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