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Default Gun guys.....what would you do?

Hypothetically, in this situation what would you do?

For Christmas I got the whole family new bikes. My wife and I had not owned or even ridden a bicycle since we were in our teens. I got my son who is 4 a nice bike for Christmas. Then before the holiday came I started thinking it would be nice if me and his mom could ride with him. So I went to the local bike shop and bought my wife and myself a nice bike.

Anyway. So I go for a bike ride with my 4 year old son yesterday. We don't live in a bad neighborhood by any stretch but down here in SE Florida the savage animals are everywhere. You hear of people getting shot and killed for their phone, watch, gold chain ect. But gold chain snatching/killings are getting crazy down here.

So we ride to this neighborhood park. While sitting there all alone while watching my son playing on the slides and shit I started to think. What would I do if a couple animal thugs came up looking to rob me and possibly kill me to take my watch, chain and bike?

The thought of me laying on the ground shot or stabbed with my son looking at me made me feel very uneasy. Then the thought of them hurting my son almost made me sick.

Some of you guys that are not from this area may not understand. But this type of stuff happens all the time, even in the best of neighborhoods. The headlines always read the same "man shot dead and robbed, killer still on the streets"

Well I'm thinking I don't want to be one of those statistics, but I don't want to hide in my house either. Is this the time a CCW comes in handy? I don't have one but I am seriously considering carrying one of my smaller guns in my pocket just in case.

If something happens I might get a gun charge. But it would be a lot better than the scenario I outlined above.

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Why not get your carry permit?
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At four, your son may be a little bit small for a Glock, but hey, it's never too early to get 'em started!

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Relocate?
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"Is this the time a CCW comes in handy?" ....... YES!

Too bad you live in a crappy part of the state

Get a carry permit if you don't have one.
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
Hypothetically, in this situation what would you do?

For Christmas I got the whole family new bikes. My wife and I had not owned or even ridden a bicycle since we were in our teens. I got my son who is 4 a nice bike for Christmas. Then before the holiday came I started thinking it would be nice if me and his mom could ride with him. So I went to the local bike shop and bought my wife and myself a nice bike.

Anyway. So I go for a bike ride with my 4 year old son yesterday. We don't live in a bad neighborhood by any stretch but down here in SE Florida the savage animals are everywhere. You hear of people getting shot and killed for their phone, watch, gold chain ect. But gold chain snatching/killings are getting crazy down here.

So we ride to this neighborhood park. While sitting there all alone while watching my son playing on the slides and shit I started to think. What would I do if a couple animal thugs came up looking to rob me and possibly kill me to take my watch, chain and bike?

The thought of me laying on the ground shot or stabbed with my son looking at me made me feel very uneasy. Then the thought of them hurting my son almost made me sick.

Some of you guys that are not from this area may not understand. But this type of stuff happens all the time, even in the best of neighborhoods. The headlines always read the same "man shot dead and robbed, killer still on the streets"

Well I'm thinking I don't want to be one of those statistics, but I don't want to hide in my house either. Is this the time a CCW comes in handy? I don't have one but I am seriously considering carrying one of my smaller guns in my pocket just in case.

If something happens I might get a gun charge. But it would be a lot better than the scenario I outlined above.

Thoughts?
If you can qualify and get a legal permit,that's the way to go.If you decide to carry a weapon,you have a responsibility to become proficient with it.It's not as easy as stuffing a gun in your pocket.Learn the laws and be prepared for a legal shit storm if you ever decide to use it,justified or not.
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Get a permit, a pistol and an IWB holster. It's probably questionable for you to posess it in the park but who cares. Lesser harm right? I'd much rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, especially if a 4 year old is involved
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Originally Posted by Esuomm1 View Post
Relocate?
I love these responses. Relocate where? Pick up my family and move to another state or another part of the state? Running away means the savage animals win.
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I'd move to NJ, I never find myself worrying about those issues and I have a 4 yr old.
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Originally Posted by richinct View Post
Why not get your carry permit?
This. ;?
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You have yourself and your family to protect, in this day and age not carrying is ignorant IMO, go pay your 25 bucks, get finger printed, get your permit. In the meantime get yourself and your family educated and proficient in shooting, range course and consistent range time. Some key things to learn are how to efficiently draw, how to make space and draw in a struggle, and how to retain your weapon in a struggle. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
I love these responses. Relocate where? Pick up my family and move to another state or another part of the state? Running away means the savage animals win.
Chris, you answered your own question. Get the CCW. What do you (or your son) have to lose?
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Originally Posted by muskamoot View Post
If you can qualify and get a legal permit,that's the way to go.If you decide to carry a weapon,you have a responsibility to become proficient with it.It's not as easy as stuffing a gun in your pocket.Learn the laws and be prepared for a legal shit storm if you ever decide to use it,justified or not.

This is the best answer you're going to get.

Get your CCW license, find a gun that works for you, train with it and carry it everywhere. When the moment comes to defend your family or your life, do not hesitate. Draw, fire, reload, fire again. Be prepared for the legal issues, research an attorney in your area who specializes in these types of cases and carry his card in your wallet. When it all goes down, keep your mouth shut. Kindly ask to speak with your attorney and say nothing to the police or media.
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1. Ditch all gold chains and expensive watches and dress down before your bike ride.

2. Carry a fanny pack, nothing screams I am carrying a gun like a fanny pack.

3. Carry a cheap phone if possible (no I phone).



If you need a gun

1. Take a class, get training
2. get a permit
3. and practice some
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Yeah, I think I will get my CCW. I have avoided getting one because I don't really go places where I feel I would need one. But being alone in that park made me feel very vulnerable to becoming a victim.

Chances are super slim I would have a problem in my own neighborhood. But these days I don't trust anyone and violent crimes can and do happen anywhere.

Until I get the CCW I think I will carry my Colt 380 in my pocket anyway. I hope I will never have to take it out of my pocket until I get back home. But if some slime bags just happen to be cruising the neighborhood and decide to target me I will be ready. If I have to pop someone without a CCW so be it. The charge for illegally carrying a gun will be much better than myself or my son getting hurt or killed.
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You don't know how many people I know with their CCW that if they tried to pull their weapon they would probably be killed with their own weapon... Or worse... Kill an innocent bystander.

Yes, get your permit, but more importantly, train and practice.

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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
I don't really go places where I feel I would need one.
Savages go everywhere, especially to the kind of places you go to, not too many well off white folks with nice stuff in their neck of the woods, so they come to yours. Be prepared at all times no matter your location.
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
Yeah, I think I will get my CCW. I have avoided getting one because I don't really go places where I feel I would need one. But being alone in that park made me feel very vulnerable to becoming a victim.

Chances are super slim I would have a problem in my own neighborhood. But these days I don't trust anyone and violent crimes can and do happen anywhere.

Until I get the CCW I think I will carry my Colt 380 in my pocket anyway. I hope I will never have to take it out of my pocket until I get back home. But if some slime bags just happen to be cruising the neighborhood and decide to target me I will be ready. If I have to pop someone without a CCW so be it. The charge for illegally carrying a gun will be much better than myself or my son getting hurt or killed.

In NH and MA where I work as a LEO, you would be charged with carrying a concealed weapon, a felony. Now if you were to kill someone, even while defending yourself, you would be charged with criminal homicide while committing a felony.

I understand the need to protect your family, but there can be very serious consequences for not obtaining that permit.
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
1. Ditch all gold chains and expensive watches and dress down before your bike ride.

2. Carry a fanny pack, nothing screams I am carrying a gun like a fanny pack.

3. Carry a cheap phone if possible (no I phone).



If you need a gun

1. Take a class, get training
2. get a permit
3. and practice some
Again, that's living in fear. I do wear a gold chain but nothing massive. And I do wear a nice watch and I do have an iPhone. But it doesn't matter, these animals down here will try to rob you even if they don't see anything on you. They figure you might have cash, phone in your pocket, ect. The bike alone is worth $400 so that alone will attract them.

I grew up around guns. I don't claim to be an expert but I have fired many guns and I'm not a horrible shot even with a small pistol.

I guess my question was. In that situation would you carry a small gun in your pocket without having a permit?
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Savages go everywhere, especially to the kind of places you go to, not too many well off white folks with nice stuff in their neck of the woods, so they come to yours. Be prepared at all times no matter your location.
No doubt.

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In NH and MA where I work as a LEO, you would be charged with carrying a concealed weapon, a felony. Now if you were to kill someone, even while defending yourself, you would be charged with criminal homicide while committing a felony.

I understand the need to protect your family, but there can be very serious consequences for not obtaining that permit.
That's just insane. The criminals have more rights than the victim. I'm in Florida and while I'm sure I would face some charges if I shot someone without a permit I doubt it would be homicide. We do have that "stand your ground" law here.

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