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Old 12-28-2013, 02:15 PM
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Curious exactly what type of bird this is. It's been around for a while, in the same general area. I think it is some type of hawk but not sure. It's in Central FL. I've seen it fly and it's wingspan is much bigger than it looks sitting on the fence. Pretty impressive.
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Old 12-28-2013, 02:32 PM
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Looks like it could be a sparrow hawk. Google "sparrow hawk" and it will give you lots of pictures.
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Young Red-Tail Hawk?
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looks like a red shoulderd hawk
Old 12-28-2013, 02:39 PM
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Default Immature Red Tailed Hawk

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-tailed_Hawk/id

That's my best guess. Color around eye not like the Sharp Shinned Hawk.

If you go to the site they have 20 other types of hawk to compare to.
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I think it is a Cooper's Hawk...

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I think it's cool he is just hanging out there, he is pretty!
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I see a red "X".
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It's a Coopers Hawk. Beautiful bird.
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Sharp shin. They hang around bird feeders and prey on song birds. I had one just like that this fall. Pretty efficient killers.
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A very healthy one.
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Coopers hawk, (member of the Accipiter family) in a sharp shinned hawk the eyes are set more towards the middle of the head, where as on the Coopers the eyes are set more forward.
Kewl to have hanging around, unless you are smaller than him.
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We have some hanging around our house.
Have seen as many as 3 at one time.
This is the same one.
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Tail is not long enough for a Cooper's hawk...
I'm going with sharp shinned also.
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Originally Posted by s_ebels View Post
Tail is not long enough for a Cooper's hawk...
I'm going with sharp shinned also.
The full train ( tail feather ) isn't visible in the OPs pics.
Op when the bird in question takes flight, does it do so with quick wing beats that are hard to count or slower wing beats that are fairly easy to count?
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Nice looking bird. Love the Coopers vs. Sharpie discussions. My first though was a very healthy Cooper's, but it could be a Sharpie. They are hard to ID in hand, let alone from a distance. I was waiting at a red light yesterday and had one fly through the intersection with a pigeon that it had just pinched. Lady in the car next to me was freaking out. Love nature in action.
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"Sharp-shinned Hawks and Cooper’s Hawks are so alike as to be nearly indistinguishable. These two birds are a fantastic model of parallel evolution. They look the same, follow similar routines, work similar territories, and migrate at the same times. Some expert birders may be able to peg them with reasonable accuracy but hardly any would claim to be right every time."

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Originally Posted by vertigo View Post
The full train ( tail feather ) isn't visible in the OPs pics.
Op when the bird in question takes flight, does it do so with quick wing beats that are hard to count or slower wing beats that are fairly easy to count?
When I've seen it fly the wings are slow. I've seen it quite a bit while walking our dog (65lbs so not worried). This was a block from our house, but the folks behind us have a bird feeder and I've seen one in our backyard too. Not sure if it is the same one or not.

Also, I've seen 2 together in the same location as the pictures above. They are pretty cool to check out, and they sure aren't afraid of me.
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While they are known to eat small rodents and the like, they are really ''pigeon hawks''. In an urban environment like yours, they are likely getting fat on songbirds. Not gonna' mess with any dog

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