Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Dockside Chat
Reload this Page >

Why are there no Congressional Term Limits?

Notices

Why are there no Congressional Term Limits?

Old 12-18-2013, 01:13 PM
  #1  
Admirals Club
Thread Starter
 
Ronn Burgandy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Where the wild things are
Posts: 15,101
Default Why are there no Congressional Term Limits?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/159881/am...l-college.aspx

75% of Americans favor them (even though we regularly re-elect incumbents at a rate of close to 90% election after election), so why do we NEVER hear about this being brought up?

I know the true answer is because the people needed to vote for it are the very people effected by it, but seriously, what the hell happened to "We the People"? Why isn't there an initiative in every state to get an Article V Convention on this subject? What am I missing?
Ronn Burgandy is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 01:22 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 620
Default

I can't think of a reason to have term limits. Why shouldn't the person that I feel can do the best job representing me be able to receive my vote? Honestly, whenever you elect lots of inexperienced people who don't have relationships with their fellow congressmen you get what we have now, a dysfunctional government. It is a lot easier to compromise with someone you know and like, than a stranger with opposing political views.
straps57 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 01:22 PM
  #3  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,121
Default

They make the rules .
north coast is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 01:26 PM
  #4  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,121
Default

Career politicians are a big part of what is wrong . 4 -6 years Max then out . For good!
north coast is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 01:27 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 402
Default

Not only do we need term limits, but we need to stop paying them after they are done "serving our country" if anyone should continue to get paid it is our soldiers who have to deal with civilized society after seeing firsthand what happens overseas.
pazimmer610 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 01:50 PM
  #6  
Admirals Club
Thread Starter
 
Ronn Burgandy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Where the wild things are
Posts: 15,101
Default

Originally Posted by straps57 View Post
I can't think of a reason to have term limits. Why shouldn't the person that I feel can do the best job representing me be able to receive my vote? Honestly, whenever you elect lots of inexperienced people who don't have relationships with their fellow congressmen you get what we have now, a dysfunctional government. It is a lot easier to compromise with someone you know and like, than a stranger with opposing political views.
You can't think of one reason? Please don't ever vote again, for the good of our country.
Ronn Burgandy is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 01:53 PM
  #7  
Admirals ClubCaptains Club Member Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lighthouse Point
Posts: 4,976
Default

Originally Posted by pazimmer610 View Post
Not only do we need term limits, but we need to stop paying them after they are done "serving our country" if anyone should continue to get paid it is our soldiers who have to deal with civilized society after seeing firsthand what happens overseas.
Their is a small underfunded organization called VOID which wants to get incumbents out. They have a liberal bent.

I don't think the founding fathers had it in their minds that a representative would stay one for a long time. My guess is that you were supposed to do your duty and then go back to the farm/store/legal practice etc where you earned your living. If you are on the left you got guys like Kerry and on the right McCain as examples. I think people like them are to blame for a lot of our ongoing issues. They are not problem solvers.
joe.giuliano is online now  
Old 12-18-2013, 02:42 PM
  #8  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: West Carolina
Posts: 21,925
Default

Term limits at a federal level? Bullshit. Each state sends their representatives to DC. If any state wants to limit the terms, do it at the state level. Personally I wouldn't want the other 56 states telling my state who we can and can't send to DC.

Last edited by Shag; 12-18-2013 at 05:58 PM.
Shag is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 02:48 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
oceanelectric1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: FloriDuh
Posts: 3,280
Default

other 56?
oceanelectric1 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 02:51 PM
  #10  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Fish'nFool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Anywhere but here...
Posts: 24,350
Default

Some representatives feel the same way.

January 22, 2013, Fairfax, VA—This afternoon, Senator David Vitter (R-LA) introduced an amendment to the U.S. Constitution which would limit the number of terms that a Congress member may serve to three in the House of Representatives and two in the Senate.

http://termlimits.org/senate-introdu...m-limits-bill/


Career politicians are BAD for this country.
Fish'nFool is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 03:02 PM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Fish'nFool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Anywhere but here...
Posts: 24,350
Default

The Federalist Papers - No 53 - acknowledge the found fathers/framers of the Constitution contemplated the idea of term limits.

"[A] few of the members of Congress will possess superior talents; will by frequent re-elections, become members of long standing; will be thoroughly masters of the public business, and perhaps not unwilling to avail themselves of those advantages. The greater the proportion of new members of Congress, and the less the information of the bulk of the members, the more apt they be to fall into the snares that may be laid before them," wrote Madison.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/fed/blfed53.htm

The framers wanted to make sure there was some continuity in office to avoid disruptions which may inevitably lead to chaos.

I also believe the framers gave Citizens more credit than they are actually due. In other words, Madison and the like believed that the People should be free to elect the best candidate to do the job and unselect those that cannot.

Unfortunately, even the best laid plans of Mice and Men go awry.
Fish'nFool is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 03:03 PM
  #12  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: West Carolina
Posts: 21,925
Default

Originally Posted by oceanelectric1 View Post
other 56?
I didn't do real good in geography but there was some guy on TV a while back saying there were 57. So 57 minus West Carolina = 56.
Shag is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 03:20 PM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 11,041
Default

Originally Posted by straps57 View Post
I can't think of a reason to have term limits. Why shouldn't the person that I feel can do the best job representing me be able to receive my vote? Honestly, whenever you elect lots of inexperienced people who don't have relationships with their fellow congressmen you get what we have now, a dysfunctional government. It is a lot easier to compromise with someone you know and like, than a stranger with opposing political views.
This is an attitude that I'll never understand. Congress and government IS the problem. The more dis-functional it is, the more better it is!!!!!!! Much more better. The bestist. We have enough laws and regulations on the books now.
Back-in-Black is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 03:27 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Over Yonder
Posts: 895
Default

Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
This is an attitude that I'll never understand. Congress and government IS the problem. The more dis-functional it is, the more better it is!!!!!!! Much more better. The bestist. We have enough laws and regulations on the books now.

You have my vote! When are you running for office?
nevermind... is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 05:53 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mass
Posts: 595
Default

I've been preaching this for years! This lazy, do-nothing, no shows may have the best of intentions the first few years. Maybe. However, after a couple years they all seem to develop their own personal agenda.

Someone also mentioned that they shouldn't get paid after their term ends, couldn't agree more!

Political offices once were distinguished jobs sought out by those who wanted better for their neighbors and country. Now it's not much more than a paycheck and a popularity contest.
Dookieshoot is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 06:00 PM
  #16  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Raleigh & Surf City, NC
Posts: 12,836
Default

Washington corrupts. Nobody that has been there more than 2 yrs has any morals left (if they ever had any to begin with).
baypro21 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 06:16 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
oceanelectric1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: FloriDuh
Posts: 3,280
Default

Originally Posted by Shag View Post
I didn't do real good in geography but there was some guy on TV a while back saying there were 57. So 57 minus West Carolina = 56.
Gotcha
oceanelectric1 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 06:52 PM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 345
Default

Originally Posted by straps57 View Post
I can't think of a reason to have term limits. Why shouldn't the person that I feel can do the best job representing me be able to receive my vote? Honestly, whenever you elect lots of inexperienced people who don't have relationships with their fellow congressmen you get what we have now, a dysfunctional government. It is a lot easier to compromise with someone you know and like, than a stranger with opposing political views.

This is EXACTLY why we need term limits, couldn't have said it better. If you're not there for life, you can't be coerced into supporting something as a "payback" or favor for something in the past or future. If you're not concerned about being re-elected, it favors doing the right thing for the country.
20chap04.1 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 06:54 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,223
Default

Sounds like a topic for down below.
08087 is offline  
Old 12-18-2013, 07:18 PM
  #20  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Weymouth, Ma.
Posts: 2,019
Default

Just do it the way New Hampshire does it. Part time reps that receive a small stipend. After you serve for a couple of terms go back to your civilian job and thank you for not screwing things up.
hottoddie is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread