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Old 12-17-2013, 04:27 PM
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Don't post over in Dockside often, but I'm looking for some advice on purchasing a used 2010 Bobcat S130 with 1,020 hours on Craigslist. Link is below.

http://worcester.craigslist.org/grd/4198787954.html

Im fairly certain 1,020 hours isn't something to get overly excited about, but I'm by no means an expert. Opinions welcome.

The only comparable information I have is that my dad bought one of the same vintage with 300 hours for 18k.

Anything I should keep an eye out for if I go and look at it this week? Anything that will tell me the machine has been "rode hard and put up wet"?

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cost of ownership is substantial but I guess you already know that
will it be used for business?
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Yes it will be owned, used, and maintained through a business.
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:51 PM
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That's a coincidence. About 2 months ago I just bought my first bobcat, a 2011 S130, so I don't know much. I did order the service and parts manuals, which were a little pricey. From what little I have learned:

From what I have read, 1000 hrs is "almost new" but see b:

a)Call bobcat with the serial number to get a brief history and make sure it is not stolen. (Apparently skid steers have the highest rate of theft, which is why many of them have the keypad code on it)

b)I'm a stickler for following the manufacturer's service recommendations. Per the book, the 1000 service is a little extensive, so see if that has been done. From what experience I have with some diesels, it appears the bobcat manuals also cover the engine. Some of the bigger things besides the usual like oil/filter changes, the engine coolant should be changed and the hydraulic oil should be changed (including some somewhat less accessible hydraulic filters, caps and breathers).

c)Check that the pins have been greased regularly - there are a lot of them.

d)You can scroll thru the "i" button to see if the machine has thrown any service or error codes.

e)check "the usual" - leaks, welds, lift arm, wheel, bucket, and functioning safety equipment.
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Don't buy it if it was used by a concrete company , they use concrete breaker hammers and vibrate every thing loose .
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What will you be using it for? I own and have owned alot of skid steers and depending on application there are much better machines for the money.
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Originally Posted by chrisjb View Post
That's a coincidence. About 2 months ago I just bought my first bobcat, a 2011 S130, so I don't know much. I did order the service and parts manuals, which were a little pricey. From what little I have learned:

From what I have read, 1000 hrs is "almost new" but see b:

a)Call bobcat with the serial number to get a brief history and make sure it is not stolen. (Apparently skid steers have the highest rate of theft, which is why many of them have the keypad code on it)

b)I'm a stickler for following the manufacturer's service recommendations. Per the book, the 1000 service is a little extensive, so see if that has been done. From what experience I have with some diesels, it appears the bobcat manuals also cover the engine. Some of the bigger things besides the usual like oil/filter changes, the engine coolant should be changed and the hydraulic oil should be changed (including some somewhat less accessible hydraulic filters, caps and breathers).

c)Check that the pins have been greased regularly - there are a lot of them.

d)You can scroll thru the "i" button to see if the machine has thrown any service or error codes.

e)check "the usual" - leaks, welds, lift arm, wheel, bucket, and functioning safety equipment.

Thanks I will be sure to check all of these things when I go and check it out. Good call in the serial number to bobcat, and letter D is definitely a nice little trick.
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Don't buy it if it was used by a concrete company , they use concrete breaker hammers and vibrate every thing loose .
Yeah those things take a beating. Just had a pool contractor with an excavator chip out a pool in ledge with a huge hammer. Machine was a p.o.s.
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Originally Posted by franklinscar View Post
What will you be using it for? I own and have owned alot of skid steers and depending on application there are much better machines for the money.
Multipurpose use. Work for a gc/developer doing everything from new construction to digging out basements in the city to create space for parking garages/underpinning.

Company has larger equipment but wants a smaller skidsteer available. 17k seems like a good deal if it Checks out.
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Originally Posted by Doublehook View Post
Don't buy it if it was used by a concrete company , they use concrete breaker hammers and vibrate every thing loose .
Rental companies like to pawn off well worn equipment too

When test driving, beware if it seems to favor one side when driving straight (turns slightly on it's own)......it can be a sign one side of the hydrostat drive pumps/motors are failing......BIG $$$$$$ to fix
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Multipurpose use. Work for a gc/developer doing everything from new construction to digging out basements in the city to create space for parking garages/underpinning.

Company has larger equipment but wants a smaller skidsteer available. 17k seems like a good deal if it Checks out.
I don't really know if it's a good deal or not. It looks very clean from the pictures - has it been repainted or was it being used personally?

From the pics, it looks like the basic model - open rops and stick drive/pedal lift. Bobcat offers erops - "enclosed rollover protection", joystick control, automatic bucket leveling, heat, a/c, and 2 different advance controllers (the right side electronics) These options add to the cost, but bobcat claims they significantly add to productivity. These may or may not be desirable depending on what/how much you are using it. The lack of these things should be taken into consideration when comparing prices.
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In my opinion the 130 is really only good for cleaning up jobsites and moving small quantities of material on hard level ground. It will not handle pallets of brick, block, sod, bundles of lumber, etc and des not do a good job excavating or grading. I would look for a T190 if you want a bobcat. It has rubber tracks , so you'll never have a flat, is not much larger dimensionally than the 130, but is 4 times the machine in terms ofwork capability and lift capacity. Lately I have been buying Cat machines, but we have a good relationship with our dealer.
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I worked in the test lab at Bobcat for a few months as an engineering intern. I've also rented a few models. Granted, most of my experience is with the previous generation, but the basics still apply. As franklinscar points out, the 130 is on the smaller side. It'll do some of those tasks, but it won't do them as efficiently or as well as the bigger machines. I will say offering the T190 as an alternative is a bit like telling someone that's looking at an Ford F150 he should just bump up to an F550...not the same market or price point at all.

One of my jobs at the test lab was keeping the machines on the "Complete Machine Accelerated Life Test" running. We usually had three machines at a time running 24/7 via PLC and actuators. The test was designed to be 4x normal machine duty, so 1 hour on the test was like 4 hours in actual service. We ran the machines for 1000 hours on this test, so Bobcat expects a machine to last 4000 hours in routine service. As others mentioned, concrete, scrap yard, demolition service are considerably more severe than routine service.

I would avoid the two smallest models like the plague. What used to be the 463 and 553 size machines. They never ran for 24 hours during testing. The S130 is the equivalent of the 751, which was the smallest of the "good" machines.

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We run the crap out of mini track hoes. We have 20 of them and have very little tear up. We service them regularly and love them.
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Ended up with an S185, more versatile in the long run, like mentioned above by several posters. Thanks to all, Merry Christmas.
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Great choice for a rubber tire machine. You will be pleased.
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