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Old 12-02-2013, 11:14 AM
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Friend passed away last night in his sleep...wondering what might be cause..autopsy later today....here's the specs:
1. 55 yrs old
2. Smoker
3. Functioning alcoholic...drank every day but held down pool cleaning job
4. High BP, took no meds for it
5. Earlier this week sick for two days with what we thought was food poisoning...vomiting, etc
6. Last two nights, wife says he wet the bed.....not a chronic bed wetter.....1st time that's happened...

Any guesses as to cause of death?
Old 12-02-2013, 11:17 AM
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Sorry for your loss Glen. If i had to guess, its going to be a heart thing. Smoking, drinking and High BP is a bad mix.
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Little side note.. it is VERY possible to have a stroke and not really even know it. Sometimes it can take days to either feel the effects of that, or die.
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My first guess too, just wondering about the earlier illness and bed wetting...seemed strange....
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Sounds like a heart attack. The vomiting was likely from the heat attack. Looks like he should have gone to the doctor. Heart attacks don't always play out like they do in the movies with someone clutching their chest. I think in 30% of heart attacks people don't even know they had one.
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I'm sorry to hear that Glen, my prayers go out to his family and friends.

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Vomiting was 3-4 days before and he got better, bed wetting was also a few nights before night of death.....I'm wondering if kidneys triggered something too...
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First, sorry for the loss of your friend.

Being that the onset was about two days ago, the nausea, vomiting and progressive decline to the point of the loss of bodily function would send up a red flag of a subdural bleed to me.

Again sorry for your loss. God Speed.
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Wetting the bed is a bit off key.. i haven't heard that one before. Quick little story.. about 10 years ago, my mother in-law was to go shopping with her daughter ( my sister in-law ) around Christmas time. Sister in-law is an RN for Tampa General. Anyway.. as they are driving, mom in-law tells daughter that LAST WEEK she felt a little pain in her chest. It lasted under a minute. Sister in-law being the RN that she is, insisted on taking Mom to the hospital "just to get checked out". They never made it to the store. My mother in-law never left the hospital. My wife never left her side. She never opened her eyes again. I took my son in to see her, he was only 7... he grabbed her hand and softly said, grandma. A tear rolled out of her closed eye and passed away.

It makes me tear up just typing this. We were told that she had a stroke that last week. She didnt even know it. She passed away Dec 17th.
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Subdural bleed......wow....stroke?
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Originally Posted by mduran View Post
Wetting the bed is a bit off key.. i haven't heard that one before. Quick little story.. about 10 years ago, my mother in-law was to go shopping with her daughter ( my sister in-law ) around Christmas time. Sister in-law is an RN for Tampa General. Anyway.. as they are driving, mom in-law tells daughter that LAST WEEK she felt a little pain in her chest. It lasted under a minute. Sister in-law being the RN that she is, insisted on taking Mom to the hospital "just to get checked out". They never made it to the store. My mother in-law never left the hospital. My wife never left her side. She never opened her eyes again. I took my son in to see her, he was only 7... he grabbed her hand and softly said, grandma. A tear rolled out of her closed eye and passed away.

It makes me tear up just typing this. We were told that she had a stroke that last week. She didnt even know it. She passed away Dec 17th.


I am praying I go in my sleep when the time comes......everyone stay healthy!
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Originally Posted by Glen E View Post
Subdural bleed......wow....stroke?
It is a type of stroke. That would be my guess as well.
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My condolences Glen E.

Maybe complications from cirrhosis of the liver?
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Originally Posted by Glen E View Post
I am praying I go in my sleep when the time comes......everyone stay healthy!
Not me brother... i try to live to the fullest.. when my time comes, I won't be laying down for it.
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Also being a friend of the deceased, I'd like to he used a high amount of OTC pain meds and OTC sleeping pills, in addition to the above.
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Here you go. With his history, this is why I'm "guessing" a subdural.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/subdural-...ses-treatments
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Originally Posted by mduran View Post
Not me brother... i try to live to the fullest.. when my time comes, I won't be laying down for it.
x100.... Sad story you wrote above this mduran.

Glen E - prayers for your friend and his family. Subderal bleed...I had a subarchanoid hemmorage..are you saying he had blood in his head? ICU for 3 days for me with my hemmorage (aneurysm). Threw up a few times and the worst headache of my life before I checked myself in the hospital.

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Stroke. I've seen the symptoms twice before.
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Originally Posted by Glen E View Post
Subdural bleed......wow....stroke?
Could've been a clot that originated anywhere in his body and made it up to his head. Clots usually don't do too much damage until they hit the brain or the lungs. Unfortunately, it sounds like your friend had one near his brain. This could've been caused from a head injury, or a simple clot that originated elsewhere.

Sorry to hear the news.
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sorry glen for your loss

I had a stroke and it involved projetile vomiting also
Id gueese a stroke he didnt even relize he had too.

Mduran. Your story remind me of my mother. Who had a wet stroke 25 years ago. And held on till i made it to the hospital. When i got there i held her hand she couldnt talk or see me but swueezed my hand to dhow me she knew. Then later passes from swelling

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