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Old 10-07-2013, 06:03 PM
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Does anyone who boats around downtown Jacksonville on the St Johns know the opening schedule for the railroad bridge? Any way to contact the operator in advance and find out when trains are coming?
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:35 PM
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Richard,

it has been a long time since I have boated downtown Jax BUT I believe the RR bridge near the Main Street bridge stays open till a train is coming, then it closes. It will open again after it passes.... I am pretty sure that is how it works as I always see it open..
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The bridge operator always knows in advance when the bridge has to be moved either up or down. However you are lucky yours is mostly in the up position, where we are in NY/NJ the bridge is always down and locked ( much RR traffic) however boats have the right of way but must notify in advance when they plan on coming through.

If your just a citizen asking out of curiosity you may be looked at funny, if you know what I mean. Why do you need to know?
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:24 AM
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Richard,

it has been a long time since I have boated downtown Jax BUT I believe the RR bridge near the Main Street bridge stays open till a train is coming, then it closes. It will open again after it passes.... I am pretty sure that is how it works as I always see it open..
X2.... Bridge stays open unless a train is crossing. I'm down there quite a bit and it is rarely down more than just a few minutes.
If you are in the area and the bridge is going to delay your voyage just stop by the Jacksonville Landing, give the bums a couple bucks to handle your dock lines, then give the bum that forces the flower made from palm frond a dollar or two, make sure you tip the bum that obstructs your access to the gang plank leading to the landing then buy yourself a drink and wait for the bridge to open back up. Make sure you have some change for the other 4 to 5 bums you will encounter on the way back to your boat.
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I asked because last Saturday I went from the Naval Air Station down to the Landing in a small boat that didn't need the RR bridge open. However, I noted the bridge was closed for the hour I was at Chicago Pizza. I did see some containers being moved back and forth during that time. This Friday I am making the same trip in a larger boat which will need the bridge open. That is why I asked. I am new to this area. I didn't see any bums while I was there.
Thanks for the info, I will just chance it this Friday.
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If it's a passenger rail line they run on a published schedule, if it's a freight company they have a schedule but I doubt it's public. Best to try and locate a number for the bridge operations to find out what you can. If the road id a federal road call a federal agency (I can't think what the hell they are called right now,) if it's county or local call accordingly.

If for some reason they give you a hard time remember, the water has rights over the roadway.
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If it's a passenger rail line they run on a published schedule, if it's a freight company they have a schedule but I doubt it's public. Best to try and locate a number for the bridge operations to find out what you can. If the road id a federal road call a federal agency (I can't think what the hell they are called right now,) if it's county or local call accordingly.

If for some reason they give you a hard time remember, the water has rights over the roadway.
Its a CSX R/R mainline and most if not all the traffic is freight (Amtrak may cross it but if so infrequently and Ive never seen it).
Does water traffic have priority over rail?
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:31 AM
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It is Normally open unless a train is coming but right now there is an issue with a bearing that needs to be badly replaced. Has been a problem for over a month.

The openings are very limited and below was posted on a sailboat cruisers site. The small boat span to the east side holds 8ish feet and I can get my Shamrock under it with Bimini and GPS antenna up but must fold VHF down. Southside has a good tide board don't know if north side does.

http://cruisersnet.net/florida-east-...cksonville-fl/

FLORIDA – ST. JOHNS RIVER – FEC RAILROAD BRIDGE – JACKSONVILLE: Special Operating Schedule.
Due to a mechanical failure, the FEC Railroad Bridge across the St Johns River, Jacksonville, Florida has been placed on a limited opening schedule. This bridge will remain open to navigation from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m., 2:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. and from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, and from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m., 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m., and from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. Saturday and Sunday, at all other times the bridge will be closed to navigation. The bridge owner is in the process of manufacturing a part in order to replace the broken bearing. If the bearing fails before the new part can be delivered, the bridge will need to be operated manually with additional restrictions implemented. Chart 11491
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That is FEC track? I thought for sure it was CSX. It runs right into CSX's yard and also the mainline that serves my facility (which is CSX).
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A guy in my office is a retired CSX dispatcher and claims it is. He says both used it thought to pass stuff between 2 yards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEC_Str...Bascule_Bridge

Either way wish they would fix it the small boat span can be dicey in the current.
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Originally Posted by SHAMROCK69 View Post
A guy in my office is a retired CSX dispatcher and claims it is. He says both used it thought to pass stuff between 2 yards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEC_Str...Bascule_Bridge

Either way wish they would fix it the small boat span can be dicey in the current.
Thanks for clarifying that because I hate being wrong.... I mean if it ever was to happen I would hate it.
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Must be a train guy thing old CSX guy is same way.
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Originally Posted by BlueRudy View Post
Its a CSX R/R mainline and most if not all the traffic is freight (Amtrak may cross it but if so infrequently and Ive never seen it).
Does water traffic have priority over rail?

We have 2 bridges that we operate over, they are both lightly travled waterways by larger boats/and smaller ships while our trains run by every 2.5 minutes at rush hour so the bridge is always down. However a boat will call for a lift and train traffic must come to a halt and the bridge goes up, end of stort. If you don't open it the coast guard will be barking up your cage in a heart beat. I've seen more then 1 train master get chewed out because they couldn't get the bridge to unlock. (chit freezes in winter) but that's too bad and no excuse.

Water was there first is the rule in which we live by.

PS and fines usually follow if we don't get it up.
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