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Old 09-30-2013, 10:52 AM
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Someone posted a General Aviation video last week and I was sucked into the Youtube vortex.

I laughed at this one but it's really not funny. I just had to share.

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Old 09-30-2013, 11:00 AM
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Wow Got to love an ATC with a sense of humor. Although he was really starting to get pissed off near the end. I thought he was going to say shut the aircraft down on the taxiway and put a gun to your head.
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That was hilarious!
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That's pretty scary. That so called "pilot" needs to be grounded for sure. If it wasn't for that ATC that guy would have flown around in circles until he ran out of fuel and crashed and possibly killing innocent people on the ground or colliding with another aircraft.
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"I'm totally stumped".. awesome and then he tells him the altimeter as if that matters to the pilot who can't figure out where he's going, too funny.

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Wonder what the conversation was later on the telephone.

when in doubt, claim your a low time student on first cross country
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Looks like he turned to heading 300 instead of 030. Stuff like that happens all the time. Kudos to the controller for remaining composed and professional.
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
Looks like he turned to heading 300 instead of 030. Stuff like that happens all the time. Kudos to the controller for remaining composed and professional.
Actually, on second thought, I guess the pilot didn't panic either if you listen to him. I've heard total meltdowns and crying.

I had a bad flight one day, I lived at the midway point of a grass strip. I landed, tied the plane down, walked in the house, threw my flight bag on the floor, looked at my wife and said "I'm a danger to anyone withing 200 miles, I suck, I quit" and went to bed...

shit happens I guess. That was funny, you gotta admit.
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
Looks like he turned to heading 300 instead of 030. Stuff like that happens all the time. Kudos to the controller for remaining composed and professional.
Once the controller realized the pilot was unfamiliar with local VFR reporting points and potentially without a working compass, he could have went old school and issued turn left/turn right, stop turn, until landmark/orientation took place, you know the old 3 degrees a second routine.
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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post
Once the controller realized the pilot was unfamiliar with local VFR reporting points and potentially without a working compass, he could have went old school and issued turn left/turn right, stop turn, until landmark/orientation took place, you know the old 3 degrees a second routine.
I would be willing to bet a large sum that his compass was working just fine I think the problem was a low time pilot flying most of his 100 hours around a small GA airport or farm strip , when he got into big boy territory he had no clue and forgot what he learned. Hopefully he did not have a blind date with him that trip, if so I could guarantee he got zip that night For you pilots, would you have filed a NASA report over this?
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Here is a good one:

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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post

ROFLMAO :r ofl:
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Wow, that was funny but scary to listen to. The guy was very overwhelmed. I've seen it happen to many students I've taught to fly when they become task saturated and make mistakes like That. He must have been a very inexperienced pilot or just lost all his SA.

I've heard some funny things on the radio flying around from ATC like asking a pilot if he knows what a map looks like. I flew into an airport in central Florida a couple of months ago and heard the tower giving instructions to a foreign flight student like he was a little kid. Asked if he understood English, cardinal directions, and the difference from left and right. When I checked in with tower and he warned me about the Cessna, I replied I heard the last conversation and I would stay way way out of his way. The controller gave me clearance to land and with a laugh after I complimented him on his style with the Cessna.
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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post
atcfris I don't know what happened to your post, but when I tried to watch it again it changed over to a different clip The one you posted was Southwest, to funny.
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Originally Posted by mikeloew View Post
atcfris I don't know what happened to your post, but when I tried to watch it again it changed over to a different clip The one you posted was Southwest, to funny.
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Originally Posted by atcfris View Post
Once the controller realized the pilot was unfamiliar with local VFR reporting points and potentially without a working compass, he could have went old school and issued turn left/turn right, stop turn, until landmark/orientation took place, you know the old 3 degrees a second routine.
I think Republic Airport is class D airspace. Without looking at a sectional I'm not sure. But outside of class D, which the pilot was, the tower controller can only make recommendations on heading. He cannot give clearances such as headings or altitudes if he is outside the tower controllers airspace. That's why the controller said " I recommend".

I'd be lying if I said I never did anything stupid in a plane. I've made plenty of mistakes. Almost flamed out an engine once on a 727 by closing off the fuel cross feed valve before turning on the main tank boost pumps. Caught that one just in time but it certainly could have gotten more interesting.
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Here's a good one......

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I used to fly with an attorney.
He was a great attorney but a horrible pilot.
Reminded me of him for some reason.
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I landed at republic about 5 hours after being a newly minted pilot. Interesting for sure. Did just fine with that. But the departure had me sweating for sure. I am not good at remembering details, so I doubt any of these figures are accurate. But once you depart vfr, you are in either class c or d, then the only way out of that is to scud run over a densely populated area or climb into class b. You can't climb into the bravo without approval. So for about 5 minutes you have to deal with the departure procedures of an airport as big as any GA plane normally goes in or out of, then figure out how to get finished with them and on to the bravo controller, then break onto their frequency and get acknowledged. Then go through the process of telling them exactly where you are, who you are, what you are etc. All while trying to climb, and not bust any airspace you shouldn't be in. Piloting a plane has much to do with managing workload. From your first lesson it starts. With my current experience it would be no issue flying in or out of there. But back when I did it I was on overload with the flying, procedures, and comms.

I don't remember many flights specifically. But I vividly remember that departure. I am sure this cat was on overload too. Lots for a little plane to think about when flying around republic.
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
I think Republic Airport is class D airspace. Without looking at a sectional I'm not sure. But outside of class D, which the pilot was, the tower controller can only make recommendations on heading. He cannot give clearances such as headings or altitudes if he is outside the tower controllers airspace. That's why the controller said " I recommend".
Actually its "suggested" instructions, the controller said "I suggest," and with that caveat we can guide the pilot without issuing hard altitudes or headings, we do it all the time, suggest fly heading XYZ and report XYZ, suggest altitude of XYZ due to obstruction, terrain, MSA, etc. Of course we are talking VFR only here and with certified display of course, but that is a great tool for us to get you where you need to be without officially breaking any rules. "I suggest" or "suggest you."

Edit: TLF you know I had to come back and state the reference for you.

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