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Old 09-26-2013, 09:18 PM
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I was reading another thread that kind of touched on this subject but I want more peoples opinion. Do you think college is worth it? Would you have done it over again knowing now what you know? I did not go to college but at the time I just didn't see the point. I was poor and didn't do well in high school. But I did manage to build a business despite my lack of education and live a good life. I did everything society said I should not do but I wonder if that actually worked to my advantage?
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Sucks but until you know what you want to do as a career, it's tough to say.

However, if unsure, it's always good to have the degree earlier on than realize you need it later and try to get it then.
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College? Educated by 93% liberals, 250k hard cost, opportunity cost(?), waste big time! ROI is real and college financial requirement is terrible. Total waste unless one specializes in architecture/engineering or medicine. Lawyers are a dime a dozen....regardless, the cost rarely justifies the investment....
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Be a fireman and then get your ticket in heat/ AC or electrical and your wife will be a nurse. You'll retire at with more mone y than you'll know what to do with.
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To answer your question... Yes I think college was totally worth it and yes I would do it again knowing what I know now...
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Yes, college is absolutely worth the time and expense...
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Yes. You can succeed with or without a college education. The odds are better with a degree. And the type of degree matters. It definitely depends on the individual. However, the percentage of non-college graduates asking if you want frys with that is higher than the ones that have a degree.
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Yes, I would do it again knowing what I know now.
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Originally Posted by jrolin1 View Post
You can succeed with or without a college education. The odds are better with a degree.
^ This.
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College is about education and intellectual growth on the one hand, and also about acquiring skills that can help you with a career. It is the exclusive path to graduate degrees such as a PhD, JD, MD, etc.

What do you want to do and be? Then ask what college can provide. There you will have your decision if you should go.

College was an important experience for me and widened my horizons in many, many ways. It was worth it and I would do it over again. My graduate degree is related to my career, and that has worked out well. If I had it to do over I might choose a different career.
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......... I did manage to build a business despite my lack of education and live a good life. I did everything society said I should not do but I wonder if that actually worked to my advantage?
I've heard it said that the world is run by C students of yesterday... My dad should have given me $5 for every D

I went in the Marines and went to college at night for 5 years on the GI bill when I got out... Was a deal to good to pass up, they paid $300ish a month, three courses cost about $150 a semester and books were about $150.. I used the college to offset only having a GED... I did okay without a bachelors degree, but it was a different world in the 70's...
I tell everyone usually that not applying myself (even a little) in HS, and not going to college was the biggest mistake I ever made. They usually look at me a little funny as I've done pretty well, so I just explain; In 1970 it would have been a hell of a lot more fun being in college partying, getting laid daily and so on than hoofing through rice paddys on the other side of the planet!
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Only (1) thing i regret in life and that was NOT going to college. I did ok in life jbut i alwayls wish i went,

My parents would have sent me to any school of my choice but in 1982 i picked the hard school of party.
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College was the best 5 years of my life, seriously. Met life-long friends... Went to some classes...played with some ladies...got a piece of paper. If I had to do it all over again, I would do it the exact same...maybe even stay longer and get a masters. College isn't just the degree... Most of my education happened outside the classroom. College experiences are priceless.

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No regrets that I did, however I really think it depends not he person. If someone is basically smart enough and has a decent work ethic, it may be a waste of money. I would suspect it is much more harder to go without, but for the right person it can be done and work well.
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Originally Posted by thetowking View Post
I was reading another thread that kind of touched on this subject but I want more peoples opinion. Do you think college is worth it? Would you have done it over again knowing now what you know? I did not go to college but at the time I just didn't see the point. I was poor and didn't do well in high school. But I did manage to build a business despite my lack of education and live a good life. I did everything society said I should not do but I wonder if that actually worked to my advantage?
This mirrors someone I know.

I agree with this statement:
"Yes. You can succeed with or without a college education. The odds are better with a degree."

Not some much for the degree, but for the connections, I would say it is easier saying I went to "so and so", it almost instantly opens doors.
I have had to continually work harder to prove to other people I know what I am doing, only because I do not have the degree. Doesn't matter that I am/was a boat captain, mechanic and own a small business.
If I had to do it over again, I would go to college.
Not that I am not happy where I am, just think the trip might have been easier.
Plus, depending on the college, you meet and get connected with different (mo money) type people.
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I went to a nice small private college in New York. After I graduated I worked at Boston University in Residence Life for three years. The immaturity of many of the students was obvious - they had NO idea who they were and what they wanted to do. That is a waste of money. Other students had total focus and did very well. I really think it comes down to the individual. Many would do well to hold off going straight out of high school to find themselves and grow up a little. Others are ready. For me? I had a blast, learned some valuable lessons in and out of the classroom, and paid my loans off as quick as I could. They way it helped me in life was not directly related to the curriculum I studied, but rather the critical thinking, verbal and writing skills, interaction with others, and life skills. Kind of an expensive way to learn those lessons!
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Yes, 100%. You have better odds with a good education under your belt.
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I think in today's age where even a college degree doesn't guarantee a decent job, it's the choice of majors that justifies the expense. Engineering/medicine/computer studies are all worth it and needed. Spending 50k a year on a liberal arts degree with a minor in woman's studding has no return.

I also believe a person who is a marginal student should seriously consider a trade. Four or five years of PAID training and you can be making a very decent living.
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As you can see from the many responses, everyone has an opinon on this topic, and few are the same...so take each for what it cost you.

Couple points of importance, I feel, and note today's world is NOT the same as prior generations, nor will likely be the same in 20 years -

1) Many, many business owners are NOT college educated, so don't feel alone. Most who possess that "entrepeneur spirit" were never big on classroom time, but their natural inclination for hard work, and good business sense, could not be taught anyway.

2) If you've read the paper in the last 3 years, or even been awake, we've all heard of the huge number of recent college grads who can't find a job in their field, so if they are working at all, it's in retail, at $10 an hour if they are lucky! So what good was that $180k spent on a liberal arts, business, or political science degree? That's right - zip. Zero.

3) Today's HS grads would do well to truly look at the job market BEFORE picking a major, and while I don't recommend picking a career you hate, at least pick one with a need for new hires! There is nothing wrong with a tech school, and a new grad from HVAC, diesel repair, or electrical trades can all get hired today for $20 an hour or more, while the BS grad from state college comes out with $50k debt or more and no job.

Be proud of your accomplishment, and don't regret a thing - your not only successful, you are providing jobs in your state during a down economy, as well as providing a needed service. There is nothing wrong with any of that.
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