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Old 07-15-2013, 02:45 PM
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I am rebuilding the deck attahed to my house. I reused the 2x8 framing and replanked it with Azek. Long sory short, the original frame isn't square. The boards were all cut to equal length but now have a "sawtooth" effect. I have to trim the 1x4 boards and they only overhang the frame by 3/4". The 4x4 posts aremounted inside the 2x8 joist. Cannot fit a circular saw or a router. Can fit a sawzall but not sure even if I install a rip fence if it will make a clean cut. I am by no means an expert. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Photo's, photo's, photo's!!!

It couldn't be squared up before you re-decked it?
I am not sure the question is clear.
Did it "rack" (out of square) after you re-decked it?

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Cut as many as you can with a circular saw then go to harbor frieght and buy one of thier multicut tools. You should be able to get in tight areas with that. Then take a belt or palm sander and clean up the cut.
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Is the decking already down? If so, why did you keep putting it down if it was out? You could have scribbed the bottom, cut and then nailed down each board.
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Originally Posted by TheRealMacGyver View Post
Is the decking already down? If so, why did you keep putting it down if it was out? You could have scribbed the bottom, cut and then nailed down each board.
Good question. I had someone helping me do a deck project and I put down the first 2 and had to leave. I knew it was out of square, so I made sure he knew what to do. Now I have to make the cut next to the finished siding of the building, but the overhang part is fine.

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Well expert and carpenter on THT should be good 3 pages anyway.

I would just cut it flush with the band now and the wrap it with a 1x4 flush with the top of the deck. That will look good and create a shadow line looking at the deck.

As far cutting it you can buy a cheap multi tool or go to a rental place and rent a jam saw.


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Festool TS 55 REQ. It sits on a guide rail and can cut flush. It's expensive but a great saw I own the TS75. Nice thing is you can use it and put it up on eBay and probably get 85%+ of what you paid for it.

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If I understand your issue correctly, you can't use a skil saw because the posts are blocking the path?

If it were me, I would use a power planer to get a straight edge on ends of the boards. Hopefully it's not too high above grade. If its a 2nd floor deck, I would make a scaffold so I could do continuous passes.
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Bigger hammer. And a bigger air compressor to run the nail gun . Use a water level horizontal
Red plumbob fluid and a left handed keyhole saw.
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IM A TRUNK SLAMMER CARPENTER.....Beat it to fit, and paint it to match!

Have the £u€kn painter fix it....I have 2 words..PAINT, CAULK!!!

Sadly, this is the skill, and talent of many!!!

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If it was square before you decked it and now its not then, then your posts aren't plumb or square anymore. You can wrack it back to square and your posts will still be square. Get under it with a come-along and rack it square and then nail some rack braces on it. I think its more likely that someone just started slapping boards on and following whatever bow was in them. If it was my deck or one that i was building for one of my customers, I would probably take the boards off and put them on square. By the way pics would help.
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Originally Posted by Just1more View Post
If I understand your issue correctly, you can't use a skil saw because the posts are blocking the path?

If it were me, I would use a power planer to get a straight edge on ends of the boards. Hopefully it's not too high above grade. If its a 2nd floor deck, I would make a scaffold so I could do continuous passes.
I think he is saying that his boards butt up to the house and since they aren't square to the house they have a zigzag look. One edge of the board touches the house, the other edge doesn't, next board the same. Maybe a 1/4" issue i see in my mind. He can't get a saw within a 1/4-1/2 from the house to trim them square. course i could be massively wrong.
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No, he said they "overhang" 3/4".
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Speculation until photos are posted.


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To clarify:
I assumed the frame was square and juststarted to replank.
After it was about 1/2 way replanked I could see it was off a little. I didn't want to remove planks because the screw system leaves a perfect hole that you plug, removing screws can damage the hole and the plug wont fit right.
The planks are butted up against the house and fit the oppiste side perfect, the frame is a parallelagram.
I trimed one side wirh a small circular saw, cannot fit it on the opposite side since I would have to start at the house end of the deck.
The ends of the planks are "off" about 1.5" over 13', it became noticeable when I covered the side 2x8 with Azek trim.
The circular saw also would not have room to clear the posts if i start cutting on the far end , or enough material to rest the saw on if i start at the house end.
Those saws look interesting, I'll look into them.
Keep the suggestions coming. Thankyou all.
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If your not going to post a photo of the deck then a pic of the GF or wife (or both) will have to do.




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It seems to me that squaring the deck may be more work than the OP wants to do. In all honesty, if its not square and you can manage the board overhang, no one will know for the life of the deck, except us.

You will, however notice the handrail posts out of plumb, but that's not your question.

Be-careful with the aforementioned Roto Zip Saw, if you go this route. They work really well, but they also have a tendency to "get bite" and run away from you, ruining things in its path.

Practice a little bit first. Or heavy grit belt sander, snap a light, straight, sand down the line, open a beer.
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