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Old 05-29-2013, 11:47 AM
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My daughter has been riding for a little over a year.. She just competed in a show last weekend on a borrowed horse and won. Now i get this from the barn:

Good afternoon!

I believe that in order for your daughter to advance and improve her riding skills, an upscale pony is needed at this time. XYZ is an excellent show pony and will be a suitable mount through the summer.

Below are fees for a partial (1/4) lease on Little D:
Lease fee: $300.00 per month
Board fee: $250.00 per month
Blacksmith: $20.00 per month
Vet - Fall shots (one time fee over the three month lease time period) $30.00
Insurance: T/B/A
Incidentals: Medications, fly spray, body clipping, trimming, mane pulling etc: $200.00 - $500.00.

Keep in mind that this is in a run down barn not the cream of the crop. They are great people though.

$570 per month seems like an awful lot to lease 1/4 of a pony?????
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Hunter Jumper / Dressage; or Western Pleasure?

Seems pricey, but yer in Connecticut, and I'm in MS.

Board in my area runs about $200 month, which includes hay/grass; you supply the sweet feed. Innoculations are about $70 year; farrier is about $50 buck every 8 weeks or so. Horse flesh is dirt cheap for these days, again, in South MS.

Shop around, you might be able to do better; but bear in mind that you are renting, so you should expect to pay a bit of a premium. If you do rent, you want to have some say in case the excellent pony turns out to be not so excellent. Every horse is different with every rider.

If you really want to see yer wallet drain, start raising the damn things.....


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Hunter Jumper / Dressage; or Western Pleasure?

Seems pricey, but yer in Connecticut, and I'm in MS.

Board in my area runs about $200 month, which includes hay/grass; you supply the sweet feed. Innoculations are about $70 year; farrier is about $50 buck every 8 weeks or so. Horse flesh is dirt cheap for these days, again, in South MS.

Shop around, you might be able to do better; but bear in mind that you are renting, so you should expect to pay a bit of a premium. If you do rent, you want to have some say in case the excellent pony turns out to be not so excellent. Every horse is different with every rider.

If you really want to see yer wallet drain, start raising the damn things.....


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Sorry - Hunter Jumper

Boats and horses - looks like ill never retire!!!!!!
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I always heard there were 2 hobbies that made boating seem like a bargain:

1) private airplanes
2) horses
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Sorry - Hunter Jumper

Boats and horses - looks like ill never retire!!!!!!
The upside to renting a horse that is boarded somewhere is that you don't have the 24/7 obligation. If my wife and I want to take a vacation, it requires planning for care of the horses and other menagerie, and not just anyone can do it properly.

If I had what I've spent on boats, horses, guns, dirt bikes, booze, hookers, blow,,,,,,...........


I could start my own church.



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Looks like i have to quit drinking! That should pay for most of it.
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Nice business! $570 will pay that horse for the month in FULL including all fees etc. They are making 75% if they actually get the full 4/4 "lease."
Is she new?
Does she need this caliber horse at this point?
Are you prepared to encourage this hobby at these levels (and significantly higher the better she does)?


Point of reference: We had 22 boarded horses on our property growing up, my sister was a competitive hunter/jumper and showed all over the world before breaking her back in Germany, which kept her from Olympic qualifiers and ended her career. Also check out Tropical rider . com for apparel if you have a need (one of our family's businesses).

I'd tell them thanks but you're doing fine on the horse you have. But I hate those damn things and spent way too many days mucking stalls and fighting in/out of trailers.My opinion may be a bit jaded. :-)
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If I had what I've spent on boats, horses, guns, dirt bikes, booze, hookers, blow,,,,,,...........

I could start my own church.

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I divorced the "horses" 13 years ago and never looked back.
Wife had 6, daughter had 1. None were every "good enough" .....
even those when they were winning blue ribbons on the "A" circuit!

Stay far far away.......

If you must rent, don't sign any long term contracts and buy health/life
insurance on that horse/pony!

Boats are cheaper! Well, smaller boats are.....

Good Luck!
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I'd tell them thanks but you're doing fine on the horse you have.)
She doesnt have a pony now she uses a school pony. I dont think hey will let her sho without her own horse.
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Don't forget the trainer, braiders, entry fees, tips, vetting, shod, custom saddles, boots, chaps, helmet(s), show trunks, vanning fees (unless you want to buy a truck/trailer!).....holy crap, thought I'd forgotten most of this stuff!
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Don't forget the trainer, braiders, entry fees, tips, vetting, shod, custom saddles, boots, chaps, helmet(s), show trunks, vanning fees (unless you want to buy a truck/trailer!).....holy crap, thought I'd forgotten most of this stuff!
Yep.


Makes fishing look cheap.



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My business partner just went thru this with his oldest daughter... Same BS story - she is getting really good now and needs a horse so she can get a college scholarship says the trainer ....

Salesmanship at its finest ...
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Buy her a sportfisher instead. Her friends will think it's way cooler and it will save you money. Hunter Jumper competitions are political in nature. The "better", meaning more expensive, horses win most of the time. The bigger the show, the more expensive the competition. Think of it like fishing tournaments from redfish ranging up to world class billfish. Renting would be a good idea if she is just getting into showing horses. In 2 years she will want her own horse that cost the same as a new 36 Yellowfin. Then she will ride that horse for 6 years and put it out to pasture. She will need one more expensive to replace it. You continue to pay for the first horse's bills so it can do nothing for the next 35+ years. Sound fun yet? This is how people end up with 6 show horses and could easily have a sportfisher for the same money.
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If it is a 1/4 lease in a small barn, I would think that the other 3 would be of similar age and skill level, therefore, how are all 4 going to compete in the same classes on the same horse? How do they all train at the same time?
It sounds expensive, but I am in NC. I would be looking for an all inclusive price, not an a la carte menu, for a lot less money. My wife and daughter went through the hor$e thing. We got lucky, and donated them to the Theraputic Riding Program for the later years. My daughter now half leases for $150-$250, depending on the horse and the facilities, (indoor, lighted ring, etc)
Buying a horse is the cheapest part of the whole deal. You couldn't give me another. Leasing is the way to go, unless you have acreage and equipment.
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I'm glad this thread wasn't about mounting horses!
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My daughter has been riding for a little over a year.. She just competed in a show last weekend on a borrowed horse and won. Now i get this from the barn:

Good afternoon!

I believe that in order for your daughter to advance and improve her riding skills, an upscale pony is needed at this time. XYZ is an excellent show pony and will be a suitable mount through the summer.

Below are fees for a partial (1/4) lease on Little D:
Lease fee: $300.00 per month
Board fee: $250.00 per month
Blacksmith: $20.00 per month
Vet - Fall shots (one time fee over the three month lease time period) $30.00
Insurance: T/B/A
Incidentals: Medications, fly spray, body clipping, trimming, mane pulling etc: $200.00 - $500.00.

Keep in mind that this is in a run down barn not the cream of the crop. They are great people though.

$570 per month seems like an awful lot to lease 1/4 of a pony?????
You poor man... your life is over as you know it. Wait for the clothes, the boots, the saddle, the bills... might as well give her the American Express right now. Oh... and holy crap if she's good!!Then it's the new Truck, trailer, camper... and traveling.

My buddies wife and daughter do barrel racing... he has no life. He's basically the barn boy.
Been there done that.

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I'd shop around on that. Ya may be able to find a free lease that is a good jumper. Than all ya gotta pay is the 10 grand a year in boarding, vet bills and entry fees...etc
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I have to add this - if your kid is really into it, then the cost should be secondary. There are a billion things you can dump money into, and many are 'worse' than showing horses.

We own them for the pure pleasure of having and riding them. As long as I don't ever hit the 'total' key, the cost doesn't bother me.

Enjoy your daughter's riding passion; many a good memory has been made on horseback.


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There was a good post on THT about owning horses . The gist was that it's a life committment and not a hobby. Very enlightening post by an avid horse enthusiast.
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