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Old 05-29-2013, 08:32 PM
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I've gone down the same road, have 5 of them right now, on the bright side I have the acreage to keep them.

Yes its pricey, but, it also helps keep your daughter grounded, she will be more concerned with competing than boys with fast cars or partying.

The costs you quoted seem a bit high, might want to negotiate a bit on fees, see if they have a cash discount.
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I have a close friend who's wife has 2 horses. They live outside of Philadelphia in Chester County were you can throw a stone in any direction and hit a horse farm. Boarding including feed etc... is $2100 a month. That does not include vet fees. Over the last 10 years between boarding and vet fees he figures he's around 200K His wife rides about 4 hours a week.................thats one expensive hobby
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If she's going to get into horses, hopefully she can become a professional rider. Then other people will pay her to show their expensive horses.
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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
I have to add this - if your kid is really into it, then the cost should be secondary. There are a billion things you can dump money into, and many are 'worse' than showing horses.

We own them for the pure pleasure of having and riding them. As long as I don't ever hit the 'total' key, the cost doesn't bother me.

Enjoy your daughter's riding passion; many a good memory has been made on horseback.


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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Many a good memory has been made on horseback.


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2nd that. And up in the hayloft after the ride!!

I grew up with horses, was in 4H, and worked on a thoroughbred farm in PA much of my teenage years. There were a lot of snooty people and snooty competitions, Devon among them. But at the end of the day, when those girls got off those horses, oh my... they dropped the snooty as fast as their jodhpurs!

Those were the days... baling hay, mucking stalls, and cold pony bottle Rolling Rocks at the end of the day!!
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My sister and her kids were hard core into the horse show thing for many years. Cost her a fortune even though at the time she had the acreage to keep them at home. The cost of the horse was minor compared to all that went with it. Kids are grown and get to deal with it themselves . . . My sister sent me a photo last month of her truck and trailer disappearing down the road with the new owner. The last thing gone - done - over.

Funny thing - the kid who had to have the latest greatest horse and horse stuff when her parents were paying for it, now has made a deal to long term "borrow' a horse from someone who doesn't compete anymore, doesn't want all the bills, but doesn't want to sell. Its actually a good quality horse. I would talk to people around the various barns - I think there are deals to be made. My neice also trades some barn labor to offset her costs.

As I reminded my sister often - this is why I raced boats, when I put the rig in the warehouse between races it didn't eat or sh*t on anything until I came to pull it out again.
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Originally Posted by FASTFJR View Post
I have a close friend who's wife has 2 horses. They live outside of Philadelphia in Chester County were you can throw a stone in any direction and hit a horse farm. Boarding including feed etc... is $2100 a month. That does not include vet fees. Over the last 10 years between boarding and vet fees he figures he's around 200K His wife rides about 4 hours a week.................thats one expensive hobby
2100$ a month per horse for just boarding? There is no way...1000$ is on the high end. Must of included training, lessons,

I'm at 525/ month in Florida, wife loves it= np going fishing
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You poor man... your life is over as you know it. Wait for the clothes, the boots, the saddle, the bills... might as well give her the American Express right now. Oh... and holy crap if she's good!!Then it's the new Truck, trailer, camper... and traveling.

My buddies wife and daughter do barrel racing... he has no life. He's basically the barn boy.
Been there done that.

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my wife rode hunter-jumper up until college, and was nationally ranked in the u18/juniors division (whatever it was called back in the 80s). my father-in-law is the most easy-going, down-to-earth guy you could ever meet, but if you ever bring up the subject of horses it sets him off like nothing else...even now almost 30 years later!!!

he was a boat and car guy, so he did his best to draw my wife's attention away from horses by buying her a ski boat in high school, and then gave her a convertible corvette when she was sixteen. that approach basically worked...she got distracted by all the toys and eventually gave up the horses!

my father-in-law said boats and 'vettes were chump change compared to horses!!!
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everything about them is high, especially when it gets competitive. We farm but never had horses and i always wanted some but my father was against it. One of the first things I did when I bought my place is bought a Reining horse. After 3 years of showing it was crazy the amount of money I had spent, I knew exactly why my dad never wanted one. I sold them a few years ago and I never look back. Although I did meet a lot of great people and had a good time, I guess it was just a phase that I passed through. I would say that price seems a bit high but, depending on how good the horse is and how far it is going to take it it what it's worth. Just go for it, maybe its just a phase, worst case she gets addicted to showing and thats what your weekends from here out consist of.
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I always heard there were 2 hobbies that made boating seem like a bargain:

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My friends cessna is cheaper to maintain, store and use than his 32 blackfin
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The money sounds about right for a good horse. That said, there are very few good horses that are leased through trainers. My wife is into Arab jumpers big time, each horse we own is $10k per year all in, provided it doesn't get really screwed up or need intensive training that year. A full time trainer is around $1-2k per month on top of all the expenses, and that is without any shows. At least I have her off the show circuit partially for now. We were offered recently $350 per month for a 1/3 lease for one of our jumpers, and the client would have had to pay for training and vet on top of that. But, board and feed is expensive where we live. The Pony world is nuts, those little guys beyond expensive- one just sold in my wife's row for $100k, for some little rich kid. The trainer pocketed $20k of that on the side.

The whole horse thing is a screw job. I'll repeat this. Horse trainers are used car salesmen to the core, the whole deal is to get your little dickens to fall in love with the animal and make you open your wallet for the trainer and all their bullcrap. I have stories til the cows come home about every trainer my wife has run across and their nonsense. Two of our ex trainers (out of 3) are so afraid of what I will do to them after they screwed my wife (my wallet), both have disappeared for their own safety. It is a disease, like a blow or booze addiction- and it is 95% women, all battling their own little inner barbie's to beat out the other Barbie on who has what. The three happiest weeks of my marriage have been when my wife was in ICU (bucked off, broken femur) or laid up with a horse injury and there was no horse to talk about or show to pay for. My honeymoon was at a horse ranch. All her friends are all divorced at least once and are all in financial ruin over horses, some of these gals also come from alot of money- but the horses can suck it up like it is nothing.

$570 is about right in my world, you have to figure that if that horse is any good, it is a $50k horse to begin with. Any time your girl touches it, it could get injured and hurt it's value- all the risk is on the owner. The insurance will be another 10% of that monthly number. I've seen a $50k horse go to zero in just one jump, bad landing by an inexperienced rider and the horse tears something. My condolences to your wallet, get used to tripping over Dover Saddlery boxes on your front doorstep.
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Is it now wonder it's called the "sport of kings"?
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If she's going to get into horses, hopefully she can become a professional rider. Then other people will pay her to show their expensive horses.
Ha! have you seen how those carnies live? Ugh. Shoot the kid now and spare her the agony of the pageant life. I'd take a pregnant, doped up tatooed, stripper teen any day over a olympic jumper hopeful. My wife is still an olympic hopeful in her own mind, and she's 40..
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Ha! have you seen how those carnies live? Ugh. Shoot the kid now and spare her the agony of the pageant life. I'd take a pregnant, doped up tatooed, stripper teen any day over a olympic jumper hopeful. My wife is still an olympic hopeful in her own mind, and she's 40..
Hafta agree.

We rubbed up against the HJ circuit, but thankfully stayed with simply owning and raising (wife's fave is Polish Arab we have owned for 7 years now). Much more pleasurable than competitive riding. We met some very unpleasant folks in that realm; too many. They seemed to outnumber the good ones.



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Welcome to my world....
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That's a fine unit.




The horse is, too.



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that seems steep to me - wife and daughter 1/2 lease a horse...I think it is ~$300/month. I really could care less. Daughter loves it and teaches some good life lessons.
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The money sounds about right for a good horse. That said, there are very few good horses that are leased through trainers. My wife is into Arab jumpers big time, each horse we own is $10k per year all in, provided it doesn't get really screwed up or need intensive training that year. A full time trainer is around $1-2k per month on top of all the expenses, and that is without any shows. At least I have her off the show circuit partially for now. We were offered recently $350 per month for a 1/3 lease for one of our jumpers, and the client would have had to pay for training and vet on top of that. But, board and feed is expensive where we live. The Pony world is nuts, those little guys beyond expensive- one just sold in my wife's row for $100k, for some little rich kid. The trainer pocketed $20k of that on the side.

The whole horse thing is a screw job. I'll repeat this. Horse trainers are used car salesmen to the core, the whole deal is to get your little dickens to fall in love with the animal and make you open your wallet for the trainer and all their bullcrap. I have stories til the cows come home about every trainer my wife has run across and their nonsense. Two of our ex trainers (out of 3) are so afraid of what I will do to them after they screwed my wife (my wallet), both have disappeared for their own safety. It is a disease, like a blow or booze addiction- and it is 95% women, all battling their own little inner barbie's to beat out the other Barbie on who has what. The three happiest weeks of my marriage have been when my wife was in ICU (bucked off, broken femur) or laid up with a horse injury and there was no horse to talk about or show to pay for. My honeymoon was at a horse ranch. All her friends are all divorced at least once and are all in financial ruin over horses, some of these gals also come from alot of money- but the horses can suck it up like it is nothing.

$570 is about right in my world, you have to figure that if that horse is any good, it is a $50k horse to begin with. Any time your girl touches it, it could get injured and hurt it's value- all the risk is on the owner. The insurance will be another 10% of that monthly number. I've seen a $50k horse go to zero in just one jump, bad landing by an inexperienced rider and the horse tears something. My condolences to your wallet, get used to tripping over Dover Saddlery boxes on your front doorstep.
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