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Old 05-15-2013, 06:49 AM
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Default Anyone here support a .05% DUI threshold?

Looks like a bunch of morons in the NTSB are recommending the BAC be lowered from .08% to .05%. Forget the fact the vast majority of drunken driving deaths are caused by drivers blowing around .15%. Drink a few beers and you will be legally drunk with a .05% threshold.

I don't drive drunk and I rarely drive after drinking any alcohol.......but come on, two mixed drinks and I have to walk home and probably get run over by a forking moron texting while driving.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:50 AM
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.05% is a good hangover.
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impairment is so variable, even with the same person
sometimes i'll have a couple of beers out at dinner and be buzzed, and sometimes i'll drink 4 and not feel a thing

better on the safe side in this case, i think
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NTSB claims that a 0.05% BAC limit would reduce drunk driving and save 800 lives/year. I'd like to see their math.

By that logic, reducing the tolerable alcohol level to 0.00% would save even more lives and there are countries that have already have "zero tolerance" standards in place. Has NTSB concluded that death rates due to drivers with less than 0.05% BAC would be acceptable?

BTW, zero tolerance for BAC is already in place in many, possibly all, states for people carrying legally-concealed firearms. Seems right to me.
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No I don't
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No cough syrup or mouthwash before you get behind the wheel.
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If they are going to make driving after two or three beers an offense, let the punishment fit the crime. >05<08 make it a non moving violation with a $50 fine. Don't throw someone in jail and screw up their life over two beers. Police have better things to do, gangbangers, rapists, dealers. Why have them waste their time processing a guy that had two beers
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If they are going to make driving after two or three beers an offense, let the punishment fit the crime. >05<08 make it a non moving violation with a $50 fine. Don't throw someone in jail and screw up their life over two beers. Police have better things to do, gangbangers, rapists, dealers. Why have them waste their time processing a guy that had two beers
Because it generates thousands in fines and fees. Tax collection.
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Cop friend with breathalizer we both had two beers in 45 minutes both blu .08 . THis would make any drinking and driving taking a chance .
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Seems to point to the rather arbitrary nature of what "impaired" means. If I'm not impaired today at .06, then I'm not impaired tomorrow at .06, or next year either.

All this allows them to do is lock more people up, people who, by their own scientific definition, are not impaired.
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If the threshold is going to be that low I would prefer for it to just be zero tolerance - take the guesswork out of it. IMO that's a better option than having to sweat whether those 2 beers with dinner are going to put you over .05.
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I'm guessing now the best way to go about it is. Never take a breathalyzer call a lawyer. That's my plan
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More laws . Heck why not just stop selling it?outlaw 12,18 and 24 packs of beer . Should only be ably to by 10 packs so you have to reload your cooler by stopping at a store . Then get a background check and breathalizer at every store before you buy the next 10
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I am a supporter of special lanes and roads that you are allowed to get shit canned and drive on at your own risk.
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I'm guessing now the best way to go about it is. Never take a breathalyzer call a lawyer. That's my plan
Ask any lawyer who defends these cases, never take a breathalyzer has been the rule since day 1.

If you go out drinking Saturday night, 05% puts you at risk Sunday morning while you drive to church.
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I am a supporter of special lanes and roads that you are allowed to get shit canned and drive on at your own risk.
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In NC if you have a commercial drivers license, (Class A & B I know for sure) you are already held to this standard. I have had my Class A for 25 years and anytime I'm driving, even my VW Jetta, I am held to the 0.05%.... It SUCKS, I don't dare have a 2nd beer with dinner.

x? on the fact that most wrecks are caused by drivers that are multiples of the present 0.08 law.
I would be willing to bet that most of the DUI arrests that come in under 0.09 are pulled for something else i.e. speeding, turn signal, registration, check points ect.
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They claim DUI's don't generate any positive money. Cost of patrol, cost of lockup, court costs... They actually say this will cost the local districts more money.

5-800 people die as a result of .05-.08 accidents. What they don't list is the cause of these accidents. How many are a direct result of the operator vs other drivers or mechanical failure...?

This law will jam up just about anyone that has a glass of wine with dinner or a few beers while out fishing. IMHO - its over the top and good people will be getting their lives turned upside down for no solid reason.
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I am reluctant to share my story.. but maybe this will help somebody down the road. My wife was pulled over in December, 2012 after leaving a company Christmas party. She is 4 foot 10.. 96 pounds. She had 5 beers in a time span of 3 hours. 3 miles from home she was pulled over for driving too slow. Speed limit is 50, and she was driving 35 to 43 mph. She was given a road side test, and she failed. She was then taken down to the station and blew 0.15. WAY over the limit. We hired a lawyer. Her case was dropped down to reckless driving. HOWEVER.. Her car was impounded for 10 days. She must attend DUI classes. She must perform 50 hours of community service. She also is on probation for 1 year. In total cost, out of pocket, this will cost is around $12,000 dollars. TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS !! Three hours at a party at a cost of 12K. Not to mention the ripple effect this has caused to our family. I have to driver her everywhere. She can not drive until she complets DUI classes. We have one more week. Total will be 3 weeks of no driving. I hold a CDL license, for me the legal limit has been .04. So I dare not drink and drive. I can tell you that this has been a strain on our marriage. I sometimes don’t think that we are going to pull thru this. I have so much anger built up against her because of her actions. We BOTH know not to drink and drive. She “thought” she was okay to drive. The law says otherwise. My advise is this.. do the math. This has cost us 12K. How many cab rides can you pay for with 12K ?? She is a first time offender. Don’t let this happen to you. If you drink… DO NOT DRIVE. I don’t care how many beers you had. Call a cab,, call a friend. WALK… do what ever you must.. but DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE.
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