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Old 05-13-2013, 04:51 AM
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Just throwing this out for discussion- charts can be good for perspective...

Seems like a very unhealthy trend.
Can we change it? should we bother?


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You've gotta' be smarter than that, right? True story. A (lifelong) friend worked for a major battery mfr many years ago in Memphis. Competing Battery Mfr's had all moved to Mexico due to intrusive US environmental regulations making it too difficult and thus too expensive to build them in the US. My friend's battery manufacturing employer was concerned enough they had a big meeting trying to assure the employees their jobs were secure and they would not move operations to Mexico where there were little or no regulations and labor was cheap.

About 1 1/2 years later, they lost "3 big accounts" to the Mexican built battery manufacturers. So they "had to move to Mexico" to stay in business. I don't recall but think they finally were bought out or went out of business completely because they fought to stay in the US too long.

My question(s) to you Naples. Do you think the pollution levels from battery manufacturing are worse or better today since they were moved out of the US?? Was it better to put such intense regulations in place in the US that batteries could no longer be manufactured here?
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And on that chart, if it was to scale you wouldn't be able to read the letters nor discern the movement. In other words, you're showing a 112 years compared to 10's of thousands of years? Can you adjust it accordingly?
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Humans are like a virus. Eventually we're going to kill our host.
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this is going to rank right up there with Etec vs 4 stroke and Yellowfin (copying) Contender.
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What are you worried about Nipsy
Maybe it's those big offshore race boats you ride in


BTW what are you driving these days
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There's a verse from a song I heard...
"Everything counts in large amounts."
We just don't know how much it counts.
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stretch it out further.

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Originally Posted by NaplesImage View Post
The Next 88...

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Just throwing this out for discussion- charts can be good for perspective...

Seems like a very unhealthy trend.
Can we change it? should we bother?


Can't believe somebody so concerned about the environment photographs and glorifies the go fast offshore lifestyle. Maybe your just feeling guilty for scaring all those manatees.
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Humans are like a virus. Eventually we're going to kill our host.
Could not agree more with that statement. Down right sickening to say the least.
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It must be a slow day at the swimming hole


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Stick to stalking women in bikinis.
Exactly!!
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Originally Posted by Lively-Lines View Post
Stick to stalking women in bikinis.
Hope they are of legal age
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Talk to China...and India...and Pakistan...and Bangladesh...and get back to us.
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Originally Posted by ken2 View Post
stretch it out further.

So it looks like we need to crank up the CO2 production so we can get dinosaurs back!

(just mixing up cause and effect like most are doing with this argument...).
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You've gotta' be smarter than that, right? True story. A (lifelong) friend worked for a major battery mfr many years ago in Memphis. Competing Battery Mfr's had all moved to Mexico due to intrusive US environmental regulations making it too difficult and thus too expensive to build them in the US. My friend's battery manufacturing employer was concerned enough they had a big meeting trying to assure the employees their jobs were secure and they would not move operations to Mexico where there were little or no regulations and labor was cheap.

About 1 1/2 years later, they lost "3 big accounts" to the Mexican built battery manufacturers. So they "had to move to Mexico" to stay in business. I don't recall but think they finally were bought out or went out of business completely because they fought to stay in the US too long.

My question(s) to you Naples. Do you think the pollution levels from battery manufacturing are worse or better today since they were moved out of the US?? Was it better to put such intense regulations in place in the US that batteries could no longer be manufactured here?
So screw it, let the mfg pollute away without any regs?

I don't know what the best answer is but I think there can be some middle ground. Maybe we could protect our US mfgs who do the right thing by slapping tariffs on imports from the really egregious polluters? Just letting mfgs do whatever they want in the name of competition doesn't sound right to me. Either that or we all end up walking around in a soup of poison and we start having kids with three eyes.
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So screw it, let the mfg pollute away without any regs?

I don't know what the best answer is but I think there can be some middle ground. Maybe we could protect our US mfgs who do the right thing by slapping tariffs on imports from the really egregious polluters? Just letting mfgs do whatever they want in the name of competition doesn't sound right to me. Either that or we all end up walking around in a soup of poison and we start having kids with three eyes.
You really think manufacturers are able to do whatever they want right now?
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Yes they do.

15 will get you 20

You should know that.
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Originally Posted by Rival1 View Post
Can't believe somebody so concerned about the environment photographs and glorifies the go fast offshore lifestyle. Maybe your just feeling guilty for scaring all those manatees.
What does it matter what my interests are?
I'm just one person, like you.

I drive a 12yr old V8. It's the only internal combustion engine I own right now.
Although I've owned as many as 8 cars, but not recently.

I've been a motorhead my whole life.

Imagine that, if you can.
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