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Old 03-29-2013, 07:36 AM
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Here is a great example. Guy gets caught trying to break into a lawn equipment trailer that was parked on the owners private property. The owner shoots and kills him.

This is an identical example of what can happen if a thief is caught stealing a boat or anything from it if it is parked on private property.

BTW...I love the comments from the thief's family and friends.

http://www.local10.com/news/Homeowne...w/-/index.html
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The victim had a long record
F-10-024001 08/17/2010 09/07/2010 TAMPER/PHYS EVIDENCE
M-12-000199 01/03/2012 02/06/2012 TRESPASS/PROPERTY
F-11-030753 11/29/2011 01/03/2012 GRAND THEFT 3RD DEG
B-11-002965 01/22/2011 01/22/2011 LOITERING OR PROWL
M-10-036040 07/20/2010 07/20/2010 CANNABIS/POSN/0-20
F-09-038723 12/01/2009 12/21/2009 STOLEN PROP/DEAL IN
F-07-012438 04/10/2007 05/08/2007 BURGLARY/UNOCC/DWELL
F-07-017737 05/24/2007 06/21/2007 UNEMPLOY COMP FRAUD
F-07-008193 03/06/2007 05/08/2007 BURGLARY/UNOCC/STRUC
F-07-008192 03/06/2007 05/08/2007 STOLEN PROP/DEAL IN
F-00-019592 06/21/2000 10/10/2000 ROBBERY/STRONGARM
F-99-007259 03/01/1999 04/07/1999 ROBBERY/STRONGARM
M-99-003665 01/20/1999 04/09/1999 CANNABIS/POSN/0-20
F-98-042799 12/22/1998 02/05/1999 BATT/SPORTS OFFICIAL
F-98-042788 12/22/1998 02/05/1999 BATTERY/AGG/ATT
M-09-036581 06/20/2009 07/27/2009 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL
F-09-020433 06/20/2009 07/20/2009 BURGLARY/UNOCC CONVY
M-06-019937 04/17/2006 04/17/2006 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL
F-02-018589 06/26/2002 03/25/2003 ROBB/SUDDEN SNATCH
F-03-011385 04/24/2003 05/14/2003 BATTERY/FELONY
M-03-023199 05/14/2003 10/14/2003 BATTERY
F-05-012399 04/19/2005 05/18/2005 COKE/SELL/DEL/W/INT
F-05-012399-A 04/19/2005 08/05/2005 COKE/SELL/DEL/W/INT
F-12-008238 04/04/2012 05/03/2012 BURGLARY/UNOCC/STRUC
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seems to me like he got what he deserved. Sometimes the rules just work in the favor of the victim.at least we can say it won't happen again to this thief.
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The victim??? had a long record
F-10-024001 08/17/2010 09/07/2010 TAMPER/PHYS EVIDENCE
M-12-000199 01/03/2012 02/06/2012 TRESPASS/PROPERTY
F-11-030753 11/29/2011 01/03/2012 GRAND THEFT 3RD DEG
B-11-002965 01/22/2011 01/22/2011 LOITERING OR PROWL
M-10-036040 07/20/2010 07/20/2010 CANNABIS/POSN/0-20
F-09-038723 12/01/2009 12/21/2009 STOLEN PROP/DEAL IN
F-07-012438 04/10/2007 05/08/2007 BURGLARY/UNOCC/DWELL
F-07-017737 05/24/2007 06/21/2007 UNEMPLOY COMP FRAUD
F-07-008193 03/06/2007 05/08/2007 BURGLARY/UNOCC/STRUC
F-07-008192 03/06/2007 05/08/2007 STOLEN PROP/DEAL IN
F-00-019592 06/21/2000 10/10/2000 ROBBERY/STRONGARM
F-99-007259 03/01/1999 04/07/1999 ROBBERY/STRONGARM
M-99-003665 01/20/1999 04/09/1999 CANNABIS/POSN/0-20
F-98-042799 12/22/1998 02/05/1999 BATT/SPORTS OFFICIAL
F-98-042788 12/22/1998 02/05/1999 BATTERY/AGG/ATT
M-09-036581 06/20/2009 07/27/2009 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL
F-09-020433 06/20/2009 07/20/2009 BURGLARY/UNOCC CONVY
M-06-019937 04/17/2006 04/17/2006 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL
F-02-018589 06/26/2002 03/25/2003 ROBB/SUDDEN SNATCH
F-03-011385 04/24/2003 05/14/2003 BATTERY/FELONY
M-03-023199 05/14/2003 10/14/2003 BATTERY
F-05-012399 04/19/2005 05/18/2005 COKE/SELL/DEL/W/INT
F-05-012399-A 04/19/2005 08/05/2005 COKE/SELL/DEL/W/INT
F-12-008238 04/04/2012 05/03/2012 BURGLARY/UNOCC/STRUC
But he was a "good guy"...
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I am a gun enthusiast, and carry most of the time - I hate thieves, and I don't know if the thieve intended on entering the home, and doing harm, nor do I know if he was shot in the back...or whatever. So I will withhold any machismo or hubris over the shooting as a "win" for gun owners.

I am human, and would feel guilt at shooting an unarmed man in my yard for taking tools....If he was in my house. I am sure I would feel differently.... I hope the homeowner is not charged with anything because the very sad truth is that if this happened more crime would go down.
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He obviously needed the money to add to that gold grille he had.
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However, even with the stand your ground law, you MUST be in fear of your life or "great bodily harm".
This will be an interesting case to follow.
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May encounter same situation ------ shoot or not shoot---- there has been 4 daytime home invasions in local area in the last couple weeks---- on two occasion woman heard door bell while napping---- got up and when to front door then heard noise coming from Lanai area ( screen room)--- going to the rear of their house saw person trying to open sliding glass doors both started screaming ---- the person ran --police called-- no arrest yet--- however tensions running very high---- Lot of talk -- can I shoot ? --- not a problem here---- SO and I both have permits--- I have told others --- don't need permit to shoot in protection your family .
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Originally Posted by kaptharv View Post
However, even with the stand your ground law, you MUST be in fear of your life or "great bodily harm".
This will be an interesting case to follow.
Yep...we need to change that.
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Originally Posted by Danny33486 View Post
I am a gun enthusiast, and carry most of the time - I hate thieves, and I don't know if the thieve intended on entering the home, and doing harm, nor do I know if he was shot in the back...or whatever. So I will withhold any machismo or hubris over the shooting as a "win" for gun owners.

I am human, and would feel guilt at shooting an unarmed man in my yard for taking tools....If he was in my house. I am sure I would feel differently.... I hope the homeowner is not charged with anything because the very sad truth is that if this happened more crime would go down.
Are you allowed by law in the State of Florida to use deadly force to protect property, or stand your ground provisions if you life is not threatened?.

In California by law you can not use deadly force to protect property nor shoot someone if your live is not threaten, a unarmed man stealing tools hardly pose a life threatening situation.

mind you I am not defending the thief, there are other way to handle those kind of situations without discharging a weapon.
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The victim had a long record
the only victim here is the property owner
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Originally Posted by ScarabChris View Post
Here is a great example. Guy gets caught trying to break into a lawn equipment trailer that was parked on the owners private property. The owner shoots and kills him.

This is an identical example of what can happen if a thief is caught stealing a boat or anything from it if it is parked on private property.

BTW...I love the comments from the thief's family and friends.

http://www.local10.com/news/Homeowne...w/-/index.html
Homeowner is lucky he's not being charged with murder. Pow, pow, pow and a final pow sounds like an execution to me. Put this in MA and the homeowner is going to jail for sure.
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
In California by law you can not use deadly force to protect property
Of course not! The state needs all the D voters they can get...
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Are you allowed by law in the State of Florida to use deadly force to protect property, or stand your ground provisions if you life is not threatened?.

In California by law you can not use deadly force to protect property nor shoot someone if your live is not threaten, a unarmed man stealing tools hardly pose a life threatening situation.

mind you I am not defending the thief, there are other way to handle those kind of situations without discharging a weapon.
Here is the statute - I would not want to be the test case... Outside on the roof of a shed. the owner may get charged, but I doubt it..an over zealous anti-gun DA could ruin his life for a few months.... ... me, I would call 911, put my wife and dogs in the closet and wait...he come to the door 12 gauge 00 buck....shed...let the cops deal with it.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/.../0776.013.html


This is a book that every gun owning Floridian should read cover to cover

http://www.floridafirearmslaw.com/Fl...k-Updates.html
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Homeowner is lucky he's not being charged with murder. Pow, pow, pow and a final pow sounds like an execution to me. Put this in MA and the homeowner is going to jail for sure.
Well thank goodness we live in FLORIDA and not MA!

Ever been in a gunfight? Fired a round at anyone? cause you sure are trying to arm chair quarterback a situation based only on media information from third party accounts after the fact. POW, POW, POW, final POW sounds just like POW, POW, POW, POW, POW, POW, POW,POW , POW, POW (high capacity magazine) to the uninformed and untrained. .... Then add the sensionalism our wonderful media outlets must infuse to sell a few more rags or drive up their TV ratings....before passing judgement and determining this was an execution lets let the State Attorneys Office conduct a PROPERLY INFORMED investigation.

Heck just last week I responded to a shots fired call... apparently a piece of aluminum siding blowing in the wind slapping the side of a home sounds like POW,POW, POW also. Called in by the neighboring house (Air Force Vet) who advised that someone was actively firing a semi-auto rifle 30-40 times.... POW
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Originally Posted by kaptharv View Post
However, even with the stand your ground law, you MUST be in fear of your life or "great bodily harm".
This will be an interesting case to follow.
When tools which are used to make my body better are stolen my body in harms way. He wad stealing a mans livelihood not a car stereo. One less thief to deal with.
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Doesn't sound like "stand your ground" to me. Not enough info.
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This is a book that every gun owning Floridian should read cover to cover

http://www.floridafirearmslaw.com/Fl...k-Updates.html
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