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Old 12-17-2012, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjimmie View Post
i'm sure there was more going on that others including him did not talk about
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That's what makes the previous comment asinine.
Old 12-17-2012, 02:22 PM
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When I first read this article, it's an eye opener that maybe we're too critical when judging the parents of these type of kids. I can't imagine raising an unstable kid like that.

The difference, as I see it, is that Adam Lanzas mother kept loaded guns in the house that he had access to. Lanza's Aunt said that his mother would take him shooting at the range, and that guns were a hobby in their household.

The author if that article recognized that her son was dangerous, and went to lengths to keep knives, etc. away from him to protect her family and her son.

If you know your son has issues, keeping guns in the house unsecured, and sharing them as a hobby with your unstable kid, are both irresponsible actions the way I see it. The poor victims are the ones who suffer from her misjudgement.
Old 12-17-2012, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LWLoadie View Post
Your pathetic comments are a prime example of the ignorance this country has of mental illness.
Or your just to willing to right this off as a mental illnees pop him a few pills when mom was the problem.
Old 12-17-2012, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
Or your just to willing to right this off as a mental illnees pop him a few pills when mom was the problem.
Wow, just wow.

Boys, Junior is off the porch again mouthin' off to adults....better getcha a switch and edjimcate him!
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Seems many here say I have no clue what I'm talking about. My daughter was living with her mother because of our great court system and I was informed she was ADHD and I couldn't figure that out. As I looked into the matter mom was having a hard time controlling her and she was skipping school, etc... I knew this was not ADHD as I had learned about but probably more about her mother. Daughter moved back in with dad and after 6 months was making all A's in school and doing great without taking those pills they wanted to put her on. The only thing that changed was the parenting and she is now graduating with her 2nd degree still without any issues. If I listened to them she would be on drugs today doing god know what. So yes I do know how the system works and how they like to take the easy way out doping up our kids.
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
Seems many here say I have no clue what I'm talking about. My daughter was living with her mother because of our great court system and I was informed she was ADHD and I couldn't figure that out. As I looked into the matter mom was having a hard time controlling her and she was skipping school, etc... I knew this was not ADHD as I had learned about but probably more about her mother. Daughter moved back in with dad and after 6 months was making all A's in school and doing great without taking those pills they wanted to put her on. The only thing that changed was the parenting and she is now graduating with her 2nd degree still without any issues. If I listened to them she would be on drugs today doing god know what. So yes I do know how the system works and how they like to take the easy way out doping up our kids.

Quit confusing the issue with facts, you know discipline doesn't work.

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Thanks for that confirmation. I feel there are far too many people that want to take the easy way out and not spend the necessary time and energy raising kids. Kids have to be evaluated and raised accordingly. Some will be just fine with just a little love and guidance, some need tough love and constant attention.

And, there are some that have a mental illness, but I feel not as many as some would have you believe.
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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
Quit confusing the issue with facts, you know discipline doesn't work.



Thanks for that confirmation. I feel there are far too many people that want to take the easy way out and not spend the necessary time and energy raising kids. Kids have to be evaluated and raised accordingly. Some will be just fine with just a little love and guidance, some need tough love and constant attention.

And, there are some that have a mental illness, but I feel not as many as some would have you believe.

This kid could have a mental illness it just sounded more like a mom who had lost control of her son and a son who knew what to do to get his way.
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Sadly, it appears that this might just be someone looking for attention.

ETA: and since nothing posted to the internet ever goes away, someday this kid is going to learn that his Mom portrayed him to the entire world as a pretty horrible kid. Nice.

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Some kids are just pure evil. I believe the evil can be beaten out of them if caught early enough.

fyi I spanked my kids maybe a couple of times in their lives. For the most part they just needed lots of love and some slight steering.
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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
Some kids are just pure evil. I believe the evil can be beaten out of them if caught early enough.

fyi I spanked my kids maybe a couple of times in their lives. For the most part they just needed lots of love and some slight steering.
Can you beat homosexual kids into being straight as well?
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Some times the herd needs to be culled for the greater benefit of the herd.
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Originally Posted by Because Boat View Post
Can you beat homosexual kids into being straight as well?

Is being homosexual wrong or an illness?
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Another interesting article from a parents (John Odgren's parents) perspective;

http://www.telegram.com/article/2010...S/6270538/1116
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Just wow. Saying people with mental illness could be cured or managed if they were disciplined by their parents is like saying someone with down syndrome could be cured if their parents read more to them, and made them study harder.

You can stick your head in the sand, or blame assault weapons, video games, or whatever else you want. However, the common link to all these mass shootings is the person doing it was sick in the head. I'd personally rather see our government invest more in helping people with mental illness, then preventing the rest of society from owning guns, watching violent TV, and playing video games.
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Originally Posted by baypro21 View Post
Is being homosexual wrong or an illness?
Well why don't you tell me? You seem to have all the answers.
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After reading the whole article and everyone's replies, one thing occured to me: there's no mention of a father in the picture. I think a father would make a world of difference with this kid. Not to beat the shit out of him necessarily, but at least to provide a unified front with mom. Definitely helps with my deranged stepson. Actually the derangement doesn't occur around me, it happens around mom who he knows he can intimidate and or manipulate. She does make a good point though that there are simply not services available unless the parents have money or the kid gets in the juvenile justice system, at least not where I live.
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Originally Posted by Because Boat View Post
Well why don't you tell me? You seem to have all the answers.

I have all the answers because I believe some kids need their ass spanked from time to time???

You seem intolerant of any views that you don't share.
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Originally Posted by rusbob View Post
After reading the whole article and everyone's replies, one thing occured to me: there's no mention of a father in the picture. I think a father would make a world of difference with this kid. Not to beat the shit out of him necessarily, but at least to provide a unified front with mom. Definitely helps with my deranged stepson. Actually the derangement doesn't occur around me, it happens around mom who he knows he can intimidate and or manipulate. She does make a good point though that there are simply not services available unless the parents have money or the kid gets in the juvenile justice system, at least not where I live.
My wife is high school teacher in NC, and she says this is a constant issue. There are kids with significant, mental, emotional, drug issues, and oftentimes some combination of the 3. Parents come to the school asking for help, suggestions, support etc, and here in NC at least there are very few if any services other than the legal system.
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My wife is high school teacher in NC, and she says this is a constant issue. There are kids with significant, mental, emotional, drug issues, and oftentimes some combination of the 3. Parents come to the school asking for help, suggestions, support etc, and here in NC at least there are very few if any services other than the legal system.
And I would be willing to bet that nearly all these kids come from a broken home...just ask her and let us know

parents come asking for help b/c they want someone else to handle their problems which, again, stem from a lack of responsible parenting. Is this the case in every single issue, no but it is in most. The parents let things get completely out of hand, then want someone else to fix them. They think they can be irresponsible and if and when things get bad enough, someone else will step in and do what they should have done in the first place. We do need to invest more money in mental health issues, but we also need to invest more money in teaching parents and kids alike about the values of responsibility. Trust me, I see it firsthand everyday. Parents would rather give their "wild" children ritalin and adderall instead of disciplining them. Say what you want, but the problem is largely poor parenting.
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Originally Posted by cfarmd View Post
And I would be willing to bet that nearly all these kids come from a broken home...just ask her and let us know

parents come asking for help b/c they want someone else to handle their problems which, again, stem from a lack of responsible parenting. Is this the case in every single issue, no but it is in most. The parents let things get completely out of hand, then want someone else to fix them. They think they can be irresponsible and if and when things get bad enough, someone else will step in and do what they should have done in the first place. We do need to invest more money in mental health issues, but we also need to invest more money in teaching parents and kids alike about the values of responsibility. Trust me, I see it firsthand everyday. Parents would rather give their "wild" children ritalin and adderall instead of disciplining them. Say what you want, but the problem is largely poor parenting.
I'm sure I shouldn't have to ask this because you seem to have a lot of experience with parenting, but do you have any kids?

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