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Old 10-11-2012, 10:29 AM
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Question Got my cholesterol checked and the results came back high. Vitamin B3 and fish oil?

It has been a while since I had any bloodwork done so while at my doctor's office and with some prodding from my wife I asked them to draw some blood and test it.
Well, I called in for the results yesterday and here are my results: cholesterol 249, sugar 142, HDL 51, LDL 172 and triglycerides 129.

Okay not the best I know, for the most part either to high or to low. I dd not fast the night before and I had some oatmeal and juice for breakfast as I was not expecting to get this work done while at the doctor. My doctor said some of the results could be skewed (read high) as a result so he will want to check me again in 30 days and after I fast.

Frankly, I was a little surprised by the results,,, I am not over weight/obese (6'/185lbs), I only drink on the weekeneds (maybe I need more red wine), I eat oatmeal pretty much every day now except Sat or Sun where I might have some eggs and a slce of toast, I eat salad just about every night before dinner and except weekends I eat my wife's home cooked meals, which once or twice a month includes steak. Very rarely do we have fried food and I have been eating more fish (tuna, cod, salmon haddock, wahoo, mahi - either raw or baked) over the last few years then I ever have in my life. No fast food either - maybe 3x a year.

My vice is, we do eat out on the weekends at which point I have my fare share of buffalo wings, frech fries, hamburgers etc. I also don't work out much anymore -- it's tough to find the time between work and 3 kids, so I imagine that has a lot to do with it. I should also mention that heart disease tends to run in my family - my dad had a triple bi-pass.

The simple answer is I need to start excerising more and cut out some of the weekend junk. However, I was reading that niacin (vitamin B3) and fish oil supplements can also help raise HDL levels which can help to bring down LDL levels. Has anyone seen the favorable affects after taking either or both?
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Im surprised they went ahead and did it without the fast. I also have a genetic predisposition. Never had an issue till i was about 55. I do take the Omega 3 fish oils and eat very carefully, work out regularly and am very active but ended up on the lowest dose of Lipitor they offer. I have no side effects from it.
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Fish Oil and Red Yeast Rice brought mine down from about 240 to around 190... I take it everyday religously
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Load up on foods with fiber and cut back on the meats, dairy, etc. and you'll likely be there in no time. Easier said than done. Good luck.
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Im surprised they went ahead and did it without the fast. I also have a genetic predisposition. Never had an issue till i was about 55. I do take the Omega 3 fish oils and eat very carefully, work out regularly and am very active but ended up on the lowest dose of Lipitor they offer. I have no side effects from it.
To my doctor's credit, the nurse was the one I had originally dealt with and long before the doctor even saw me. She did say I could go get my blood drawn at a lab or she could do it right there on the spot -- no mention of fasting though. Seeing how I did not want to miss more work I just told her to go ahead and take the blood.

When my Dr came in, he asked right away if I fasted and I said "no." That's when he explained the results might come back higher than they normally would and if they do he will re-test. I guess if I was in tip-top shape it probably wouldn't as much of an issue. I read that cholesterol levels tend to move more slowly than triglycerides and sugars so fasting doesn't impact the results as much?

Can you correlate any benefit from the fish oil?
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Fish Oil and Red Yeast Rice brought mine down from about 240 to around 190... I take it everyday religously
I read about red yeast rice too.. So they make that in a supplement tablet?
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The difference between fasting and non fasting blood work can be night and day.
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Originally Posted by FASTFJR View Post
The difference between fasting and non fasting blood work can be night and day.
Even though I only had a bowl of oatmeal and small glass orange juice that morning? I could see if I had bacon and eggs or something.

My doc said the fasting generally starts at midnight the night before.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
I read about red yeast rice too.. So they make that in a supplement tablet?
Yes, very easy to find...I buy mine at Sams
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I just had mine checked last week. Mine was 273 with an LDL of 196. I eat well, in shape (5'-9", 175) and all the other tests came back perfect including the EKG. Genetics is my downfall. Had more than a couple cousins have heart attacks in their 30's. So, given the history, I had a CT scan (calcium score) last night to check the blockages and am going in for a stress test next saturday. Doc put me on 20mg Lipitor to get it down, low dose asprin and I'm going to start taking B3 as well. My father's has always been high and my mother's was over 300 at one point, but had no blockage when tested. Luckily I take after my mothers side of the family when it comes to health issues and my sister my dad's (high blood pressure, glucose......) Hopefully, there is little to no blockage for me, but I am still young(ish) (40) so the lipitor should unplug what is there. Never thought about the yeast. Have been looking into the benefits of pomegranite juice though. Just hate the taste of it.
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Not fasting REALLY skews the results.

I brought mine down by increasing whole oat, and brown rice intake.

Close to 200 don't sweat it 1/2 the population has 200 +-20. Yet half of us aren't dying of heart attacks. Lipitor's stated goal, "get all over 40 on drug permanently". Yet known side affect??? Liver damage,... Now can anyone tell me what internal organ is required to regulate cholestral levels??? Yes; you guessed it, the liver. So why do you want to take a drug that destroys the one organ that has a chance to lower cholestral levels???

Lipitor is a molecule simular to Niacin, (vitamin B). Why not just take vitamin B? Or better yet, eat foods high in Niacin, like whole grains!

Excercise uses up cholestral, try it, 1 hour per day. Just a long walk, or active sport, (you don't have to kill yourself, just get the blood flowing, and use some muscles).

Your "good", HDL Cholestral is too low, fix it by changing from trans fats, to Olive oil, no more margarine for you. Fish, especially deepwater ocean fish, lower bad cholestral, and raise good. So go fishing offshore, you get excercise, and get a healthier diet in one stroke.

And don't stress over your "tests", stress is the leading cause of heart attacks.

The second??? Plaque causing micobacteriums that damage arteries, and turn cholestral into plaque. Google heart attack rate connection to denture wearers.
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Flunked my stress test and 2 stents were put in mid September. My cardio DR said red meat and dairy products are not my friends during my follow up last week.

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Fish oil had a significant affect on my numbers over about 120 days. It dropped from 220 down to about 180. I did start running more than I had been, but not enough to have had that kind of impact. I don't like what it does to my lower GI system, but I can live with it.
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I'm surprised they didn't say anything about your blood sugar...those are diabetic numbers.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
Even though I only had a bowl of oatmeal and small glass orange juice that morning? I could see if I had bacon and eggs or something.

My doc said the fasting generally starts at midnight the night before.
I had my blood work done last year before I moved away from home - I was 22 yo, 5'10, 145lbs - because I have pretty bad family history/genetics and fasting pushed my liver levels high enough that my doctor wanted me tested at a specialist to be sure I was fine. That was a nervous week for me, haha, thankfully I'm fine.
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If you did not fast your results are WORTHLESS.
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Originally Posted by gameon View Post
I'm surprised they didn't say anything about your blood sugar...those are diabetic numbers.
He did say it was on the high side, but then again I did not fast and not fasting he said could drastically increase sugar levels. Having that cup of orange juice and cinnamon oatmeal I am sure pushed that up. Then again my dad is also diabetic, but that is due to his weight problem.

Going back in 30 days to get re-tested, this time I will fast.
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LOL Cinnamon oatmeal? Just eat a snickers bar. This is what you should eat

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Capn bill no margerin for this guy,,, only butter. I also eat lots of fish, my mercury level is probably high as a result.

Okay so I just logged on to Amazon and ordered some B3 (niancin), Mega krill fish oil pills, prenatal vitamins (for me wife) and I am going to pick a script that my doc wrote for some vitamin D cause he said my levels were a little low.

Going back in 30 days for a re-test and I will follow up with results.
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Fish oil had a significant affect on my numbers over about 120 days. It dropped from 220 down to about 180. I did start running more than I had been, but not enough to have had that kind of impact. I don't like what it does to my lower GI system, but I can live with it.
Good to hear. People seem to swear by the stuff,,, that and B3.

How many mg a day are you taking?
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