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Old 10-11-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures View Post
fify there, Mr. By the Book.

In 2010, Arizona completed a study of their statewide 76 photo enforcement cameras and decided they would not renew the program in 2011; lower revenue than expected, mixed public acceptance and mixed accident data were cited.

http://www.azauditor.gov/Reports/State_Agencies/Agencies/Public_Safety_Department_of/Performance/10-02/10-02.pdf

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The Department’s state-wide data indicates that the number of fatal collisions has decreased in three of four quarters and injury collisions have decreased every quarter since photo enforcement was implemented, when compared to the same quarters in the 2 years before the program’s implementation (see Figures 2 and 3, page 14). However, similar decreases are evident when comparing quarters within the 2 years
before photo enforcement. In addition, similar to the general downward trend in state data, national data shows a general downward trend in fatal collisions.


So... based on actual data, are you still going to take the stand that the cameras do anything to make you safer? Like I said, it's about revenue. And when that revenue doesn't meet expectations, watch how damned fast your beloved cameras go away.


Maryland did the opposite, they added twice the number this year. Between redlight cameras and the bullshit speed cameras they really try to get you comming and going - litterally. This is a source of revenue for a state that is oherwise floundering to pay its bills. These cameras are HUGE money-makers.
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Originally Posted by Capt.Willie View Post
Let's just skip right to the end and put chips in everyone.

That way they can fine your arse everytime you make a move.
It's coming and when it does I will gladly relinquish my citizenship. Progressive is already tracking the driving habits of its' customers through On Star. Of course it is voluntary right now, but just you wait... I am willing to bet that local governments will try to find a way to issue tickets using the same tactic.

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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
It's coming and when it does I will gladly relinquish my citizenship. Progressive is already tracking the driving habits its' customers through On Star. Of course it is voluntary right now, but just you wait... I am willing to bet that local governments will try to find a way to issue tickets using the same tactic.
Your car already has a "black box."
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Originally Posted by Capt.Willie View Post
Your car already has a "black box."
Sure, it's called a DME, DDE or ECU, difference being that information is not being monitored by the government -- as far as I know -- to enforce the law. Progessive is using the built-in GPS signal to do just that and like I said I bet this is only a stepping stone of things to come.
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I wouldn't be apposed to the cameras if they didn't.

1. Shorten the yellow light, increasing, instead of decreasing accidents. 2. Send out fines for turning on a light, (used to be legal right?). 3. Increase coruption as red light camera company bribes elected officials to install them and sign generous fixed contracts, in return for campaign donations. 4. Give off bright flashes of light at night ruining my night vision at the most critical time of passing through an intersection. 5. cause erratic behaviour from other drivers trying to avoid fine.

City is too lazy to enforce law, and thinks a camera is better than hiring more traffic cops. (same cost). The policeman in his spare time can prevent you from being mugged, the camera,...not so much.
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Camera is better, cheaper and more impartial.

Turning on red is legal; after coming to a full stop. How many do that?
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Originally Posted by Seacat FL View Post
Camera is better, cheaper and more impartial.

Turning on red is legal; after coming to a full stop. How many do that?
Are you sure about that in Fl.?
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
Sure, it's called a DME, DDE or ECU, difference being that information is not being monitored by the government -- as far as I know -- to enforce the law. Progessive is using the built-in GPS signal to do just that and like I said I bet this is only a stepping stone of things to come.
Yep--that is my point. A step away.
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Here is a great product being developed for those who don't like the cameras.

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Come on people. Its ALL about the safety. Always is, always will be!!!Just sit down, and shut up. the gov. knows whats best. Why do so many want to buck the system?
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Come on people. Its ALL about the safety. Always is, always will be!!!Just sit down, and shut up. the gov. knows whats best. Why do so many want to buck the system?
We're not interested in bucking the system.


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Get this shit,,,

I was approaching a stop light in a 45 mph zone -- probably doing 50 or a little more -- light starts to change -- now I am pretty close at this point considering the speed -- knowing there is a camera at this light (cause I got nailed here before), I JAMMED on the brakes to stop, almost getting rear-ended as a result.

Anyway as I am coming to a stop, the guy behind me decides to do just the opposite and floors it! I see the flash bulbs go off -- I laugh! A week later I get a photo of my car along with a ticket all because my front tires were over the white line when the cameras went off! While technically against the law, no cop would have pulled me over because of that infraction, but instead the cameras unscrupulously ding you if you are not within the letter of the law. How is that for impartial?!
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Originally Posted by Tuna Colada View Post
Here is a great product being developed for those who don't like the cameras.


Only problem I see with that is if the sensor gets dirty (and it will) with road dirt, water, snow, etc. It will fail.

What I would do is

on edit, never mind. may be too good an idea to broadcast.



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Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
We're not interested in bucking the system.


We just like kicking Seacat in the nuts.




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I can't take it anymore. Some bitchy guy in Montana wants to sell me a towing business and convenience store.
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I can't take it anymore. Some bitchy guy in Montana wants to sell me a towing business and convenience store.
Kick him in the nuts.


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