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Old 09-23-2012, 06:33 PM
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Any one have one? I don't plan on moving for a while and wood is free. Any brands to consider / stray from?
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Researched this a lot a few years ago... check your local zoning. Do you currently have radiant floor heating or water based heat?
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I know a half dozen friends/ neighbors with them.....there is a local fellow that makes them a few miles from me.....everyone seems to buy his.

- How much house/ pool/ shop(s) do you have? Don't buy a unit that is oversized!
- If you buy a wood furnace that is 3' long, 4 or 5' long you will want to be able to split logs that long. How big of a log splitter do you own?
- I've got friends that are splitting five foot longs that are four foot in diameter that are just riddled with knots and they split them like walnuts.
- Do you own enough chain saw? You can't be farting around with toy saws on 3 - 4 & 5 ft diameter maple trunks.
- Do you own the tractor to move around all the 2 - 3 & 4 ton sections of logs?
- Do you own the track and trailer to be able to round up all the massive sections of logs?
- Up here the guys generally burn between 12 and 18 face cord a season......do you have enough room for all that wood?
- Are you neighbors to close to where they will complain about the constant bellows of smoke flooding their yard and house?

Obviously you will just tie your new furnace into your exsisting system.......that way you can have your other system as a back up when you go away for extended periods.
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Originally Posted by skibum View Post
Researched this a lot a few years ago... check your local zoning. Do you currently have radiant floor heating or water based heat?
My propane water heater flows into a radiator thing in my air handler. I live in the country pretty sure no zoning issues, even if there was I'm remote enough I doubt any one would ever know.
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I know a half dozen friends/ neighbors with them.....there is a local fellow that makes them a few miles from me.....everyone seems to buy his.

- How much house/ pool/ shop(s) do you have? Don't buy a unit that is oversized!2100 sq ft up top 2100 basement finishes
- If you buy a wood furnace that is 3' long, 4 or 5' long you will want to be able to split logs that long. How big of a log splitter do you own?no splitter - I was under the impression I could throw logs in it. Is this wrong?
- I've got friends that are splitting five foot longs that are four foot in diameter that are just riddled with knots and they split them like walnuts.
- Do you own enough chain saw? You can't be farting around with toy saws on 3 - 4 & 5 ft diameter maple trunks.good in saws, however a 6-900$ saw would be a minor expense in addition to this 8k boiler
- Do you own the tractor to move around all the 2 - 3 & 4 ton sections of logs?no currently move them w trailer and 4 wheeler or truck. Something to consider however I have been wanting one with a bucket for other projects.
- Do you own the track and trailer to be able to round up all the massive sections of logs?trailer yes and seem to have a lot of friends who cut trees for money / own 12 acres of woods
- Up here the guys generally burn between 12 and 18 face cord a season......do you have enough room for all that wood?
- Are you neighbors to close to where they will complain about the constant bellows of smoke flooding their yard and house?
cant even see neighbors
Obviously you will just tie your new furnace into your exsisting system.......that way you can have your other system as a back up when you go away for extended periods.
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What the hell is a wood boiler?
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What the hell is a wood boiler?
An outdoor furnace that heats your house and hot water. (Looks like a small shed)
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What's the advantage over your typical furnace & hot water heater?
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What's the advantage over your typical furnace & hot water heater?
Wood is free, gas is $$$$$$$$$.
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Oh, I see. All of my appliances run on the plug, things are probably different up there.
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Oh, I see. All of my appliances run on the plug, things are probably different up there.
A lot of homes here have heat pumps / electric water heaters. I may go that route also.
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I know a half dozen friends/ neighbors with them.....there is a local fellow that makes them a few miles from me.....everyone seems to buy his.

- How much house/ pool/ shop(s) do you have? Don't buy a unit that is oversized!2100 sq ft up top 2100 basement finishes
- If you buy a wood furnace that is 3' long, 4 or 5' long you will want to be able to split logs that long. How big of a log splitter do you own?no splitter - I was under the impression I could throw logs in it. Is this wrong?
- I've got friends that are splitting five foot longs that are four foot in diameter that are just riddled with knots and they split them like walnuts.
- Do you own enough chain saw? You can't be farting around with toy saws on 3 - 4 & 5 ft diameter maple trunks.good in saws, however a 6-900$ saw would be a minor expense in addition to this 8k boiler
- Do you own the tractor to move around all the 2 - 3 & 4 ton sections of logs?no currently move them w trailer and 4 wheeler or truck. Something to consider however I have been wanting one with a bucket for other projects.
- Do you own the track and trailer to be able to round up all the massive sections of logs?trailer yes and seem to have a lot of friends who cut trees for money / own 12 acres of woods
- Up here the guys generally burn between 12 and 18 face cord a season......do you have enough room for all that wood?
- Are you neighbors to close to where they will complain about the constant bellows of smoke flooding their yard and house?
cant even see neighbors
Obviously you will just tie your new furnace into your existing system.......that way you can have your other system as a back up when you go away for extended periods.

Your house is currently heated with what? Do you have full in floor heat ducts? Does your lower level have complete runs for forced air (full duct work)? If so, put the bulk of your wood heat to the lower level and the restricted the flow to the main level….adjust as need be. Then install floor vents to allow the warm ambient temperatures from the lower level to naturally rise to the main level.

I’m no salesman but that is how I would treat your 2,100 sq ft home. I would think you should be able to comfortably use a wood furnace that would take 3 ft lengths.

You really do need to split the logs. Whole round logs just don’t burn/ smolder worth a shit. I’m not saying you need 100% of all your wood split but one or two round logs per load should be fine.

It’s pretty hard to deal with 15 cord a year without a commercial saw with at least a 24” bar. Look at the used market for something with a 36” bar and it’s always nice to have a smaller 16” bar saw.

Something that might work great for you instead of a trailer for hauling the logs around is a skidder. Do a Goggle search on ATV Skidder.
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What the hell is a wood boiler?

http://www.portageandmainboilers.com/
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I could imagine this would be cool for a few days while renting a remote cabin or something but feeding a wood boiler, day and night for an entire winter?.....no way.

Hats off to you tho for goin off the grid!
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Let me ask you this first. Are you looking for a cheaper way to heat the outdoors? How tight is your home? Good energy efficient windows? Exterior doors all insulated and seal well? I have an owb. I heat 3200 square feet via tubing poured into my slab.
I would suggest upgrading your windows and doors. Triple pane krypton gas.. 8k is a lot of money, and you still have to feed the monster.. I refer to it as "the magic box" put a lot of wood in it and watch it disappear.
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They make an indoor unit that uses NG or LP as a back up. Look at New Horizon Corp, I might install one in Maine.

It would be a very cold day in hell I installed one of those outdoor units. What a stinky mess permeating your house when the wind changes direction.
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