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OPPS! ....USAF C-17 lands at a very short Davis Island by mistake .

Old 07-21-2012, 01:27 PM
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Default OPPS! ....USAF C-17 lands at a very short Davis Island by mistake .

http://kathrynaviationnews.com/?p=70268


http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/175...-Wrong-Airport





Official USAF release:

7/23/2012 - SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE, Ill. (AFNS) -- A C-17 Globemaster III carrying 23 passengers, plus a crew of 19, landed at Peter O. Knight airport near Tampa, Fla., rather than at the planned destination of MacDill Air Force Base, Fla., about four miles away.

The aircraft, flying in support of U.S. Central Command, was apparently undamaged and there were no injuries.

There appears to be no damage to the airfield. In concert with airfield officials, the Air Force is planning to move the aircraft to allow Peter O. Knight airport to re-open.

The incident is under investigation.

(Courtesy of Air Mobility Command Public Affairs)




Tampa Bay Times:
The Air Force said the plane landed Friday at Peter O. Knight Airport in Tampa, about 10 miles from MacDill Air Force Base, where it was supposed to land, the Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday.

"I'm quite sure the crew was embarrassed," said Deric Dymerski, president of Atlas Aviation, which runs ground operations at Peter O. Knight Airport.

"They weren't on our frequency. They just showed up," he said. "They obviously, well, I'm speculating, mistook it -- all appearances are they mistook the airport for MacDill Air Force Base."

The Air Mobility Command at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois said the aircraft was en route to the base following Central Command operations in southwest Asia.

Maj. James Bressendorff, AMC public affairs executive officer, said he could not provide details of the mission or the mistaken landing because the investigation is ongoing.

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Old 07-21-2012, 01:38 PM
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Oops! Actually happens more frequently than you'd think.
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I'd say that pilot has great piloting skills but his navigation skills leaves much to be desired!
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Originally Posted by Jay A View Post
I'd say that pilot has great piloting skills but his navigation skills leaves much to be desired!
A big difference between trying to stop on 3,400' instead of 11,000....I would say he did the job.
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The militray and fly boys can chime in but my quess is taking off would be easier than landing - those babies have to be way overpowered to carry a full load and if its empty it probaby doesn't need much room at all to get airborne. I remember 130's with just troops seemed to be airborn in a few hundred feet.

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Guess the original pilots that landed at the wrong airport will be stuck with "other" duties instead of flying.

Closer to home, this has happened as well with opa locka and Miami international airports.m the runways are nearly identical with the same orientation and less than 5 mins apart in a jet at approach speeds. Glad its not a busy airport and everyone is safe.
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Maybe someone can help me understand this. isn't the pilot talking to the tower as he comes in? wouldn't the tower notice that he was not actually landing?

Just curious how the whole thing may have happened
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
A big difference between trying to stop on 3,400' instead of 11,000....I would say he did the job.
Must have been prior Navy!
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I was at the 311 and Slightly Stoopid concert at the Fl State Fairgrounds/1800askgary amphitheater last night and this guy flew right over us over really low. i just figured it was landing at McDill.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:45 PM
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You really have to be really negligent to ge these two airports confused. These guys were not doing their job. They should have tuned in the ILS 22 approach into Macdil. How do you mistake a 11,000' runway for a 4000' runway?!?! They were lucky they got the plane stopped!The C-17 has excellent short field capabilities.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:52 PM
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I would imagine the navigator is in bigger trouble than the pilot.
The pilot landed safely despite being at the wrong airport.
Betchya the official Air Force explanation will be that they had to land there due to trouble with the aircraft.
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Old 07-21-2012, 04:00 PM
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They did a great job not crashing into Tampa Bay, the Davis Island runway is super short!!
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Old 07-21-2012, 04:17 PM
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Well atleast he didnt crash it
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No doubt the laundry will need some extra Tide and really hot water to clean those boys' britches!
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Had a friend that was PIC for a C-17 that got lost going to England. He woke up and the dudes flying were very quiet about where they were..about 4 hours in the wrong direction. They just made it on the fuel they had.
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post
Had a friend that was PIC for a C-17 that got lost going to England. He woke up and the dudes flying were very quiet about where they were..about 4 hours in the wrong direction. They just made it on the fuel they had.
Didn't happen like that. That would be impossible. They would have been talking to controllers giving mandatory position reports at every fix with expected arrival time at the next fix.

What if some small aircraft GA was on final approach and this thing slammed into it. The runway length wasn't the only issue here. The Macdil tower controllers didn't have to have a visual on the plane to clear him to land. Macdil tower probably told him to report the field in sight. He reported the field was insight and the tower cleared him to land since Macdil didn't have any other traffic.

Plowing a C-17 into a 3500' GA airstrip unannounced is not a safe thing to do with other air traffic around. These guys are finished with their careers and they won't get hired flying for an airline either.

What I don't understand is the view from the cockpit would not have made any sense considering the runway length, width, GA airplanes on the ramp etc. Why didn't they abort the landing when things didn't make sense. Stuff like this happens. A Delta 767 landed on a taxiway in ATL last year at night. That makes no sense either since the runway and taxiway lighting are completely different. Lucky there was no one on the taxiway. Not to mention that taxiways aren't strong enough to handle landing aircraft.

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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 View Post
I would imagine the navigator is in bigger trouble than the pilot.
The pilot landed safely despite being at the wrong airport.
Betchya the official Air Force explanation will be that they had to land there due to trouble with the aircraft.
I believe that for stateside operations a navigator is not required. The air force has removed the navigator on many non-tactical aircraft including tankers and some dedicated cargo craft. If I am not mistaken, navigators are only supplemented on special missions.
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I have done cockpit rides in C17s in Asscrackistan and never saw a navigator, just a pilot/copilot. These things are as automated as any commercial airliner and it would be a pretty big "oops" to land on the wrong field especially during bluebird conditions. This will be difficult to recover from, particularly given the media attention.

These things are incredible STOL (Short Take Off Landing) platforms - they will pin you in the seat both accelerating and decelerating.
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Having dealt with FAA cretins and their union on other levels, I have no confidence in their abilities. The controllers are more concerned with the number of operations they handle than the actual flight paths. Palm Beach airspace is the worst..or at least I hope so.......
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