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Old 07-16-2012, 02:53 PM
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I own a retail store in a building that is home to several other businesses, we all rent our spaces from the same landlord. My business has been here for 5 years the guy next store has been here about 4 years and we don't get along. He is a dentist but owns this antique shop as a hobby, he is a major complainer and a total cheap ass, he slanders my business and does not respect our boundaries. He started complaining about a $10 a month change in his electric bill to our landlord which caused our landlord to get an electrician out. The electrician found out that he has about 4 outlets that are on my service, that I have been paying for since I moved in. My electric bill is about $300 a month and he has roughly twice the space that I do.

How would you go about collecting money due and how much would you go for? Talking to this guy face to face would not go well. If we got along I wouldn't ask for anything, but since this guy is a total ass I'd like to get something.
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Take it up with the landlord. Make it an issue that the LL has to share with you and you can get something done. If you go to the neighbor, I'm not sure he has a responsibility to you since the lease isn't with you.
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Take it up with the landlord. Make it an issue that the LL has to share with you and you can get something done. If you go to the neighbor, I'm not sure he has a responsibility to you since the lease isn't with you.
I agree, but I bet the LL will pass it off as a pre-existing condition that's between the OP and his neighbor.

To the OP; get that electrician out to your place (or DIY) to ID which breaker is feeding the Dentist's outlets. Then, either route around them on your side of the wall, or turn off the breaker when you don't need it...or turn it off completely and then the dentist will hound the LL and you'll be the one getting polite calls to settle this.
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legally, its really your issue with the LL
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:18 PM
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The fault should lay with the landlord to correct and get your monies then the landlord collect his monies from the asshole. Get the outlets changed to his side by the landlord then see a couple of months what the difference is in your bill not assholes and then that's the amount the landlord should get back for you times 48 if it is indeed 48 months you been paying for those outlets being used.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:11 PM
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The first question is, what is plugged into those 4 outlets, and what is the likely draw? If you turn off the breaker to some of his vital equipment, he should be getting the landlord to fix it pronto. I doubt that you will get anything, unless it is a major draw. You cannot sell him unmetered electricity.
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Landlord issue -- nothing to do with the tenant unless he knew -- which is worthless to try and prove

Not to be a turd-monkey, but when I had a retail store, I would turn off all my breakers from time to time and make sure that my meter wasn't still spinning -- I did it because my landlord was a cheap bastard that loved to steal heat and electric. I'd catch his ass all the time. Looking back he was one funny Greek bastard...
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Not to be fussy but... Don't cut off those outlets while he has patients. Just to be safe. No sense ruining somebody else's day over a few bucks.

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Have the landlord correct the wiring issue, tell the dentist to shut the hell up and deal with it. As far as the past, how would anyone know what to collect retroactively? That's like renting your neighbor an outdoor outlet and having him pay only for the electricity used ...
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I think you mean the outlets are in an antique shop which is owned by a dentist.

Unless he has a refrigerator, space heater, or PC plugged into those outlets the usage is probably pretty minor. You could ask the electrician if he can put an ammeter on the circuit and then you could monitor what the actual usage is. Unless the outlets are in a particularly useful location for him (maybe at his cash register?) I doubt you'll find much.
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Originally Posted by Kamper View Post
Not to be fussy but... Don't cut off those outlets while he has patients. Just to be safe. No sense ruining somebody else's day over a few bucks.

Good luck!
I think it's an antique shop owned by a dentist.
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You got you no case. Life's short. Move on.
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Were both places wired before you moved in? Or is it space that the tenants finished?

Sounds like the first, if that is the case your beef is with the landlord.
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Originally Posted by I Love Beer View Post
I own a retail store in a building that is home to several other businesses, we all rent our spaces from the same landlord. My business has been here for 5 years the guy next store has been here about 4 years and we don't get along. He is a dentist but owns this antique shop as a hobby, he is a major complainer and a total cheap ass, he slanders my business and does not respect our boundaries. He started complaining about a $10 a month change in his electric bill to our landlord which caused our landlord to get an electrician out. The electrician found out that he has about 4 outlets that are on my service, that I have been paying for since I moved in. My electric bill is about $300 a month and he has roughly twice the space that I do.

How would you go about collecting money due and how much would you go for? Talking to this guy face to face would not go well. If we got along I wouldn't ask for anything, but since this guy is a total ass I'd like to get something.
It's probably too late but I would have just left the wiring in place and shut off the breakers.

People like that are hard to deal with. You will never "win".
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:05 PM
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wire those outlets for 220v and fry whatever he plugs in.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:20 PM
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Call your electric provider! They will have a record of both shops and will probably deduct the average difference from your bill and in turn add that difference to the other guy. At least it's worth a try.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:39 AM
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See if your electric bill drops at all once the problem is fixed, if you see a drop i use calculate what that means in $'s over the years as electric prices have gone up and hand the LL a bill, but expect a rasie in rent next time ur lease comes due.
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Originally Posted by Jay A View Post
Call your electric provider! They will have a record of both shops and will probably deduct the average difference from your bill and in turn add that difference to the other guy. At least it's worth a try.
I doubt they would even entertain the idea.
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Originally Posted by Crabpot Man View Post
I think it's an antique shop owned by a dentist.
Thanks. Got caught up in all the responses and lost that detail. As one antique to another, I hate being in the dark!
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Yep, turn that breaker off...
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