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Old 07-13-2012, 05:24 PM
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House air unit took a dump today, it's old , we need a new unit. Was quoted 4100 total today for a trane 3 ton heat pump pkg....... in the ballpark or way off base?


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Old 07-13-2012, 05:27 PM
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It's probably average..figure $1000-$1500 per ton. Trane is decent stuff..crappy stuff is cheaper.
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Thx...the company seems straight up...good rep....
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I've been doing some shopping myself; Consumer reports rates less problems reported on American Standard stuff. Might be worth a look?

Just for comparison though, I was quoted $3300 for a 3 ton Carrier separate condensor and evap unit without heat (I have gas furnace heat)--but I am in SC.
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Sounds reasonable, if that includes installation.

Put in a 4 ton American Standard, 16 SEER unit last year. Nice digital controller and mega filter system. 8 grand all up.

When you have no A/C. In Florida. In July. ANY price should be okay.


There you have it - non expert opinion.


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I've been waiting for mine to take a dump...went and bought two window 8K BTU units from walmart as cheap insurance. When it finally does it will undoubtedly be like Glen's...on a Friday (and probably before a holiday).
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Originally Posted by Glen E View Post
Thx...the company seems straight up...good rep....
That's about all you need to know. Price seems reasonable.
Usually in S. FL, they don't use heat pumps, just ac with electric back-up

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I've been doing some shopping myself; Consumer reports rates less problems reported on American Standard stuff. Might be worth a look?

Just for comparison though, I was quoted $3300 for a 3 ton Carrier separate condensor and evap unit without heat (I have gas furnace heat)--but I am in SC.
American Standard is made by Trane. Carrier is in their own little world.
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Not doubting you, but if AS is made by trane...odd they would report less problems:



Edit: Ingersoll Rand is the parent company to Trane and American Standard.
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I've been waiting for mine to take a dump...went and bought two window 8K BTU units from walmart as cheap insurance. When it finally does it will undoubtedly be like Glen's...on a Friday (and probably before a holiday).
Mine is relatively new and I have a couple of window units for breakdowns and power outages (I'd have to double the size of my generator to run the central ac).
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Forget consumers Reports..lotta BS. The quality of the installation is more important than the equipment itself. A properly installed amana/Goodman will last longer than a poorly installed Lennox.
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$4k for 5.1 ton Rheem / Rudd 15 seer installed with new pipe pulled and a 2nd aux return added, a little over a month ago. I replaced a rheem / Rudd 4 ton 10 seer. The good news is that in its first full month of use, the average temp in my area was up 2 degrees, BUT my electric bill went down $200.

Do the ton... math yourself, what most wanted to sell as a 5 ton, was actually, 4.xx tons.
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Price is fair, main thing is a reputable installer.
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Seems a little high. Make sure that includes the coil. We bought a Jenn-Air 6 ton unit 10 years ago and it's worked flawless. Not trying to talk you out of a Trane but this Jenn-Air system was about 20% less money and has worked great for 10+ years.


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Old 07-13-2012, 06:58 PM
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I have three 14 seer Trane units. Glad they came with a 10 year parts and service warranty.
Eight years later....I am very glad.

Get the 10 year warranty.
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Get 3-4 quotes, on the last one ask for his best offer since he's last. About 80-85% of the time the last guy's bid gets the job. But when you do this, you have to know, understand and watch the job being done to catch any potential shortcuts.

They don't like it but I don't like overpaying either.
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I was in the attic Monday unclogging the evaporator coil drain (glad it was a plastic drain pan). All those stickers rheem puts inside the cold box came off, stuck to the coil then wet down hit the drain line and boom clog. The dissimilar metal on the coil is starting to rust out. These things are designed to fail. Quoted 1,500 for a new coil, service call, freon.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Forget consumers Reports..lotta BS. The quality of the installation is more important than the equipment itself. A properly installed amana/Goodman will last longer than a poorly installed Lennox.
So true.
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I went with a Heil system when I renovated. I got comparable quotes on lennox and trane but the biggest difference was if you talk to people in the industry only Lennox and trance shops can support those systems.

But Rheem, Heil, AS goodman and others anyone you call can work on them. You don't want to get stuck waiting 2-3 days for a proprietary part from trane or lennox.

Anyhow good luck and expect anywhere from 800-1500 ton a installed for the 15 seer system.
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Any legit company can work on Trane and Lennox just as easily as any other brand (and get the parts in warranty if it is still in effect). If you have to pay for a proprietary part you will find they are no different from Carrier and Rheem/Ruud. Lennox and Trane are not the only ones that are proud of their parts.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:28 AM
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Why bother with a heat pump? I used my heat maybe 15 days in the last 5 years.

Kudos for sizing it right though.. My neighbor just put in a 5 ton system along with a small addition to his house... he's going to have way too much capacity.

I -think- mine is 3.5 ton for ~1700 sqft and is just right. Ductwork restrictions are the biggest challenge in our neighborhood.

I haven't heard a lot of people down here who are thrilled with their $$$ systems. I'd go for a highish SEER rating but probably only in a single stage compressor.
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