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Old 07-12-2012, 10:15 AM
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Default Testosterone and/or HGH therapy. Anyone doing this? Results?

OK, just turned 55. Normal diet, a little overweight but not by much. Low sex drive, need a nap in the afternoon, dragging by 9 oclock.

Went to my doctor last month for yearly checkup and insisted he look at my T-Level. It was 310. He said it was low but within normal range. Flipped me a Viagra script and was told not to worry.

Been doing a lot of reading and want some real world experience opinions. Are you doing this and does it live up to your expectations.

Tight lines...
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whats your BMI?
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I had those symptoms, plus a few others. Attributed it to getting older (54).

Turns out it's Lyme Disease. What a PITA.
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Could also be sleep apnea.... from what I understand T treatment has many possible side effects prostate cancer and more frequent rectal exams
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whats your bmi?
27.7
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start lifting wieghts, not a lot but regular lifting and it will all come back.
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What is a "normal diet" ? that is pretty subjective.... I agree with the above ^^^^
I have a good friend that did it much younger than you, worked wonders, but very expensive, the T is ok, but the HGH is bad, causes growth - growth in old joints causes pain... I think he stopped all together. Was having to go for constant screenings as a side effect is acceleration of cancer if you have it.... or are getting it.

eat clean, exercise... watch porn...if your sex drive is good for a 21 year old co-ed the low T is not the problem......
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Stop smoking
Have your thyroid gland checked (blood work)
Have an ultra sound done on your adrenal gland (checking for nodes)
Take ginseng as a supplement
Have sex even if you don't want it
Laugh more
Listen to your favorite music more often
Go dancing
Go for walks
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310 is on the very low side of normal. My doc wants mine up around 800. Estrogen level is important as well. Did he check it? Testosterone injections once per week worked for me. I feel much better. My testosterone was 160. Now it's at 800.
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Im 34 years old and have been on testosterone replacement therapy for about a year now. Sex drive is through the roof and have never felt better. Enhanced muscle tone, increased bodyfat loss........ My test levels came back around 400......felt no desire for sex and was tired all of the time...... but you have to look at other things as well like your free testosterone as well as your testosterone binding capacity....also your estrogen level..... Looking at a single testosterone level is not a good diagnostic. You want your test levels in the upper normal range around 900-1000. Go talk to someone that specializes in hormone replacement therapy. That is your best bet, your normal doctor is not going to do anything for you.

My best guess is that all of these guys that are being handed Viagra or Cialis should actually be looking more toward where there hormone levels are at. In my opinion those meds are only masking the underlying problem and causing a temporary fix. When my test levels were low before I had the symptoms of ED (erectile dysfunction)....my normal doctor wanted to hand me Viagra as well, but I wasnt wanting to have to use Viagra. Now with my testosterone level being monitored and my level in the upper normal range, again, my sex drive is through the roof and the erects are like nothing I have ever had before. I just want to bang the brakes off the old lady all the time now. That makes me happy and in return makes her REALLY happy!!!
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310 is on the very low side of normal. My doc wants mine up around 800. Estrogen level is important as well. Did he check it? Testosterone injections once per week worked for me. I feel much better. My testosterone was 160. Now it's at 800.
No he didn't check it. I threw the T-level at him in the last minute. I figure if I do want to explore this option I would go to a specialist. I need to lose about ten more pounds on top of the 13 I've already lost. I'm doing this by eating smarter, cardio and light weight lifting.
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The problem with "average" numbers is almost no one was tested in their 20's or 30's and that baseline is what is needed to be sure.

Other than the worries about prostate cancer, you need to have your pituitary gland tested. The pituitary gland controls the level of testosterone in the body. You could have a growth on the gland that would cause it to malfunction.
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Good advice above. I'm 59, on T therapy (second injection and haven't noticed much)

I have a bunch of other issues happening, so doctor is ruling out other stuff. I had a prostate biopsy because psa was slightly high and adding T to the mix is like fertilizer to prostate cancer.

Work with a specialist and see what's up. This is no way to live, I haven't been able to fish and have been on a boat only a couple times since having a kidney removed in March. I'm just out of gas, so to speak, most of the time.

Best of luck to you and find a specialist. I always find out who the doctors use and go there.
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My understanding is that once you start taking T replacement, your body stops making it's own. I guess the only problem would be if you ever wanted to stop taking it.
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I'm 43 and I have no idea what is being discussed here but you're scaring the bejesus out of me.

Can anyone explain this in English?
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Low testosterone levels....and what to do about it. Mostly injections of testosterone. I've been taking injections for about 2 years. I had a double whammy as I was diagnosed with sleep apnea and low T within about a month...started injections and Cpap and felt great right off the bat. I was SO tired before, I could barely keep my eyes open all day. Losing some weight and working out/exercise helps. The wife likes the increased action too...
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I think once your Calcutta is delivered you will be fine.
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i have at least a decade on you and my heat seeking moisture missile leaves the silo so hard a cat couldnt scratch it....i attribute it to routine exercise, clean diet, very moderate alcohol consumption, genetics and low mental stress level.
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A BMI in the high 20s is not good and could be the root of your problem. You might not be overweight by your friends standards but that doesn't mean anything. Look at people today. I'd start exercising more and read more about clean eating. To keep it simple, try not eating any fired foods for a week. Subcutaneous belly fat leads to low T. Those t shots would scare me- not much different than steroids. Take them too long and guess want? Your body says well I don't need to produce t because there is plenty here. Pretty soon you have to do the shots and your balls are the size of English peas due to atrophy. No thanks.
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http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

6' 200lbs = BMI 27.1

BMI Categories:
  • Underweight = <18.5
  • Normal weight = 18.5–24.9
  • Overweight = 25–29.9
The BMI is a VERY general calculation and too simplistic. The example given could have a 30" waist or a 38" waist.
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