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Old 04-12-2012, 05:06 PM
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Time for me to replace my '05 Dodge Durango. I've been looking at new and slightly used Nissan Armadas, new Dodge Durangos and new GMC Yukons (just trying to do my part saving gas). I need something that will tow 8-9K pounds so looking at maximum engine size in each of these vehicles. Appreciate hearing any experience folks have with these vehicles. I also looked a bit at the Suburban, it is same as a Yukon, and liked the Toyota Sequoia but I don't have $60K to drop on a car.
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What about a used Land Cruiser ? I have a 2008 - we love it - think it tows 8k lbs +/- ..
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What about a used Land Cruiser ? I have a 2008 - we love it - think it tows 8k lbs +/- ..
Sweet vehicles, but I think they cost more than the Sequoia's. I'll look into them.
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:18 PM
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From that list with the largest motor, I would go GM. There is not a whole lot else in the SUV market that will out perform a Yukon or Tahoe with a 6.2.
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:28 PM
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Just curious why suv and not truck?

Replaced my 04 Durango hemi with an 11 ram 1500 hemi sport - 400 hp, nice interior, heated and cooled leather seats, nav, upgraded sound, auto everything,, remote start, etc, etc - couldn't touch a new suv with similar features for the same price. (under 30k) Interior and ride a nice step up from the Durango in just about every way except for the obvious enclosed cargo room. Very happy with the decision.

The new grand Cherokees/durangos are sweet but you'd prob miss the towing cap by 1000 lbs...

Whatever you do, take a good look at 2013s from any manufacturer. Lots of new models coming out.
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Originally Posted by Flot View Post
Just curious why suv and not truck?

Replaced my 04 Durango hemi with an 11 ram 1500 hemi sport - 400 hp, nice interior, heated and cooled leather seats, nav, upgraded sound, auto everything,, remote start, etc, etc - couldn't touch a new suv with similar features for the same price. (under 30k) Interior and ride a nice step up from the Durango in just about every way except for the obvious enclosed cargo room. Very happy with the decision.

The new grand Cherokees/durangos are sweet but you'd prob miss the towing cap by 1000 lbs...

Whatever you do, take a good look at 2013s from any manufacturer. Lots of new models coming out.
I like having the 3rd row seating which comes in handy sometimes. My playtime is usually spent with buddies headed down to the coast with a load of scuba gear, and I just find it more convenient to have all that interior lockable space. Thanks for the tip on the '13s.
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Love my GMC XL with the 6.2 engine and 6-speed auto.
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Love my GMC XL with the 6.2 engine and 6-speed auto.
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The Yukon XL / Suburban is rated to tow max 8500lbs in 2WD, and a little less w/ 4WD. You can increase that by 1000lbs by going to the 2500 series, but don't expect it to be good on gas. Personally, I wouldn't want to be towing very often that close to my truck's limit. (Edit - also keep in mind a truck full of passengers detracts from your max tow rating.)

If you can get away w/o the 3rd row seat, what about a F150 crew cab w/ a cap and the 6cyl EcoBoost engine? It'll get close to 20mpg, tow almost 12k lbs, and I'm thinking you can get one nicely equipped for about $40k.
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I think they cost more than the Sequoia's.
They do.... I was going to get a Sequoia ..... But the Land Cruiser is just a beast...

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When we went looking to trade in my wife's 2004 Durango we put all the full size suv's on the table. Ended up with an Armada Platinum. The Armada, Expedition and Seqoia all had basically equal interiors but she liked the Armada look best. The 3rd row seats on the GM's were tiny and don't even fold flat so it made them useless imo or we would have considered those. She's very happy with it and it is extremely useful and capable as a family vehicle. I've towed up to about 6k with an Armada and it pulled just fine. The one thing is the mpg could be better. Someone needs to put a 4-5 liter diesel in a full size suv really bad. We briefly considered the QX56 but it's considerably more for basically the same suv.
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Originally Posted by triplenet View Post
They do.... I was going to get a Sequoia ..... But the Land Cruiser is just a beast...

that highlight on the door below the mirror is a deal killer !!!!
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We just picked up an 08 2WD Sequoia with 30k miles after shopping all of the most common SUVs. The big three stuff that we test drove made it an easy choice. Bertha is a solid truck with an exceptional drivetrain and towing capability. I am a pickup guy at heart but this is the best towing SUV I've ever driven other than my buddies diesel Excursion.
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+1 for the diesel Excursion... official soccer mom SUV in Texas!
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Not to get into a pissing match but I've always been a GM guy and still like their trucks but my last Denali was a mechanical disaster and never went more than a few months without something going wrong (sold at 86,000). Another friend just traded in his 3 year old sub with 100,000 which was burning oil, and another dumped his Denali for constant issues. As much as I prefer the style and comfort of GM trucks, it seems like Ford may be gaining somewhat of an edge in terms of quality. 128,000 miles on my F-250 and it's only had 3 repairs. My uncles Expedition and my buddy's F-150 have also been very solid.
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Have had good luck with GM Tahoe Yukon XL and Surburban line . Heard horror stories about all brands. A crap shoot I guess - there are some lemons everywhere I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
Not to get into a pissing match but I've always been a GM guy and still like their trucks but my last Denali was a mechanical disaster and never went more than a few months without something going wrong (sold at 86,000). Another friend just traded in his 3 year old sub with 100,000 which was burning oil, and another dumped his Denali for constant issues. As much as I prefer the style and comfort of GM trucks, it seems like Ford may be gaining somewhat of an edge in terms of quality. 128,000 miles on my F-250 and it's only had 3 repairs. My uncles Expedition and my buddy's F-150 have also been very solid.
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The Yukon XL / Suburban is rated to tow max 8500lbs in 2WD, and a little less w/ 4WD. You can increase that by 1000lbs by going to the 2500 series, but don't expect it to be good on gas. Personally, I wouldn't want to be towing very often that close to my truck's limit. (Edit - also keep in mind a truck full of passengers detracts from your max tow rating.)

If you can get away w/o the 3rd row seat, what about a F150 crew cab w/ a cap and the 6cyl EcoBoost engine? It'll get close to 20mpg, tow almost 12k lbs, and I'm thinking you can get one nicely equipped for about $40k.
x2......a F-150 crewcab with a hard tonneau.Unless you really have to have the 3rd row seating for people I like the crewcab much better. Stinky bait buckets, bloody slimy fish, sandy wet scuba gear....etcetera etecetera all go better in the truck bed you can hose out and it won't funk up your interior. The other big advantage is no one can see inside your tonneau like windows on an SUV.

I have a 2010 F-150 XLT Supercrew w/4.6L and I get 18+ everyday and 22+ on the freeway going to the coast. Another nice thing about the Fords is you can order an intergrated brake controller(although they are hard to find). The Ford intergrated brake controller is only about a $250 option by itself(cheaper than getting one installed), built into the dash and it is wired through the ECM so that although you adjust the bias the ECM will "readjust" it it your anti locks or traction controll goes off.

I got a real sweetheart deal on mine (09/2010) with rebates and discounts list $37,725 paid $26,800.

http://www.trucktrend.com/features/c...lers/ford.html

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Old 04-14-2012, 08:23 AM
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I am a dyed in the wool Toyota guy, so for me a Sequoia or Land Cruiser would be a good fit. And they just don't have the mechanical issues the domestics have...

BUT.....since Fiat began investing in Chrysler, they have made some major changes to both the Durango and the Jeep Grand Cherokee. Same frame and drivetrain, just different interiors and some trim. Consumer Reports even likes them, and has given them some glowing reports.

Yes they are new...and I really hate to be the guinea pig for any new model, but they are worth considering...
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:24 AM
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Keep the Durango if you are happy with it. Their resale sucks. Buy a new economy car for daily use and let some of the fuel savings offset the note. It never hurts to have an extra vehicle.

IMO Excursion is the king of the suvs. Bamaboy on here has a nice one he has been thinking about selling.
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For everyone suggesting Sequoias, isn't the max tow capacity on that only ~7,100lbs? Seems a bit low for the OP (said 8-9k lbs). Even the Land Cruiser's tow rating is only ~8k lbs. Granted, FL is relatively flat, and maybe you can get by going over your limits a bit, but, personally, I'd be real hesitant.
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