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Old 04-12-2012, 05:00 AM
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Sad that U.S. companies will not get in on these billions of dollars of work with over 3000 jobs offered going to Chinese workers.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/us-b...ylist=14594944
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Originally Posted by gator56 View Post
sad that u.s. Companies will not get in on these billions of dollars of work with over 3000 jobs offered going to chinese workers.

http://abcnews.go.com/wnt/video/us-b...ylist=14594944
this makes me sick!!!!!! Our government has sold out.
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Hey, they built 1/2 of the most important intercontinental link in US history, the railroad, and that was 150 years ago.

But in todays market, I agree! Frankly, I'd be hesitant to cross a Chinese built bridge.
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Let me make sure I understand Dockside Chat's take on government responsibilities from this week:

Us govt subsidizing electric cars... Not okay, the free market should decide what we pay and stop wasting money.
Us govt acting paying for corporate "events" for its employees - not okay, the US govt needs to pay closer attention to spending and stop wasting money.

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Us govt should be paying American companies more money to build bridges slower... Damn straight, it's an american road isn't it?

Did I get that right?

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Old 04-12-2012, 06:19 AM
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Flot you got it right.......and this just in Weekly Jobless Claims Rise 13,000, to 380,000 reported April 12 @ 9:20 am.
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Originally Posted by Flot View Post
Let me make sure I understand Dockside Chat's take on government responsibilities from this week:

Us govt subsidizing electric cars... Not okay, the free market should decide what we pay and stop wasting money.
Us govt acting paying for corporate "events" for its employees - not okay, the US govt needs to pay closer attention to spending and stop wasting money.

but

Us govt should be paying American companies more money to build bridges slower... Damn straight, it's an american road isn't it?

Did I get that right?
We can build them just as fast...would you rather have the chineese build it with your money and bring that money to China to spend, while your money is also paying for the unemployed americans on welfare, unemployment, housing assistance....you may think its cheaper but it really isn't.
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most of the products in and around our homes are made in china. My money pays for these goods. Why is this any different than buying the bridge components? Answer, it isn't.

The answer to solving unemployment is NOT circumventing the market and overpaying for a product. The answer is threefold:
  1. Stop subsidizing unemployment through continual extension of benefits
  2. through leadership, provide an environment of confidence leading to both increased consumer spending and worker hiring
  3. Provide a friendlier business climate.
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while your money is also paying for the unemployed americans on welfare, unemployment, housing assistance....
My issue is what % of these folks would (or could) take work building bridges? Or any work at all?
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It's Sad but most Americans want the best bang for there buck and are quick to shop around for the best deal reguardless of where the product is made or who is making it. I would say if you shop Walmart and have a driveway full of foreign cars then don't complain the government got you the best deal for your tax dollar. Unfortunately it has become the American way.
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Americans want the best bang for there buck
+best deal reguardless of where the product is made
= driveway full of foreign cars.

But then again my foreign car was built in Texas by Americans. Outrageous isn't it?
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I'm all for Uncle Sam getting the most out of my money as possible.
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For Chinese press 3
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The biggest dilemma is that the US has been fighting for access to government sponsored projects/tenders in foreign countries for US companies. There is even a provision in the WTO for it that the US has fought for. So we can't try to even the playing field for our own companies in foreign markets while restricting foreign companies in our own market. Open markets go both ways.
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I know what type of work is involved. It's not very complex or interesting but it is money coming in. The shop I work at has 300 iron workers in China its 3000. I hope they don't use cheap steel from them bc I 1st had have seen it lamniate when +-100 tons applied to a bridge piece to straighten it with heat and that was with brand spanking new steel. We make high end products that they buy and we get the sht end is the stick
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I have first hand knowledge of the way the chinese do job's...

There is NO chinese licensed crane operators in the NYC, so when I show up at a job with a crane, I am the only non-chinese person on the job, they will only let chinese work on there jobs..

They will only used materials coming from chinese suppliers!!

They immediately build make shift shelters for the work staff to live on the jobs, I kid you not..

When I need to use the bathroom on any of these jobs, I have to walk past 20-50+ cot's in any building they are putting up, talk about disgusting

0 % of any of this money that is spent to make this bridge will be spent in the US
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guy in interview says he can't find american welders

this has been one of my issues in my west coast aluminum boat build, so i believe him
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Originally Posted by blackfinmike View Post
I have first hand knowledge of the way the chinese do job's...

There is NO chinese licensed crane operators in the NYC, so when I show up at a job with a crane, I am the only non-chinese person on the job, they will only let chinese work on there jobs..

They will only used materials coming from chinese suppliers!!

They immediately build make shift shelters for the work staff to live on the jobs, I kid you not..

When I need to use the bathroom on any of these jobs, I have to walk past 20-50+ cot's in any building they are putting up, talk about disgusting

0 % of any of this money that is spent to make this bridge will be spent in the US
Hit the nail on the head.
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guy in interview says he can't find american welders

this has been one of my issues in my west coast aluminum boat build, so i believe him
Aluminum is a fickle btch too much heat and it will just oxidize to nothing (think beer can in a fire), not enough and you won't break through the oxidation. Tell him to find a local high school or community college with a welding program and tell them what he needs.
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guy in interview says he can't find american welders

this has been one of my issues in my west coast aluminum boat build, so i believe him
Can't find or doesn't want to pay for American welders?
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Can't find or doesn't want to pay for American welders?
Ding, Ding, Ding

We have a winner (in both cases) the guy who say's this in the thread and the lying politician (like that never happened before)
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