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Old 04-11-2012, 08:02 PM
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As I get closer to old age I think I may downsize my outboard one day, which size (HP) would be the most you'd want to pull start at 60 yrs of age? Assume the motor will be brand new and 4 stroke.
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Buy an electric start.

Never say die when there's a shot in the locker.

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Don't overlook the 2 stroke E-TECK.
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Originally Posted by 08087 View Post
As I get closer to old age I think I may downsize my outboard one day, which size (HP) would be the most you'd want to pull start at 60 yrs of age? Assume the motor will be brand new and 4 stroke.
You are planning on being all alone on a boat at age 60 and needing to pull start a motor?






I can see that in your future.... too.






9HP max and a pack of Cheez Nabs..
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You are planning on being all alone on a boat at age 60 and needing to pull start a motor?






I can see that in your future.... too.





9HP max and a pack of Cheez Nabs..
I figure if my batt. ever dies and I'm tooling around in some of the back bays I know of I need to be able to pull start my rig. No way boat us or seatow will ever make it back in those shallows.

It's about 1'-1 1/5' of water at most in many areas, once you get up on plane you don't stop until you reach another location where it drops off to 2'. Many would call it swamp areas, but I love getting back there to be at peace with myself and life in general. When the dinner bell rings I want to make it back out. I'm figuring 25 hp w 40 hp as a max.

Are these motors any easier to turn over these days. Last pull start I had was a 15 hp 2 stroke which was a breeze when I was a kid.
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I have a 40 hp 2 stoke that I COULD possibly pull start, but it better start on the first or second try.

I've actually been thinking about the same thing and I'm going to install a 12V trolling motor. With the trolling motor, I could get my skiff in and out of a lot of places the gas motor wont. I've never had a good start battery go dead while using it (I suppose leaving lights and a radio on would do it). It would be easier to carry a portable jump starter with you. It's more likely to have engine problems such as bad gas (ethanol).
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Don't be silly, for a couple hundred bucks you can work out a nearly foolproof extra battery, no need to worry about pull starting or anything else. Last motor I pull started was a force 120 - I'd rather carry a 50 lb battery with me every trip.
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it would have to be something like a honda....guaranteed to start on first pull....my 13hp wood splitter and power washer do.
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I would carry a second battery or one of those jump starters before I would get into a position of having to pull start an outboard.
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I am 60, and pull start a 25 Evinrude 2-stroke on my jon boat. It would be interesting to try a 40 - 50 hp tiller model. I have pull-started a warmed up, tuned up 150 2-stroke just to do it. It was running before the rope cleared the pulley, but a cold, balky engine would be another story.
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It wasn't that long ago that I pull started my 90 Yamaha after running a battery too far down. I guess I was in my 50's, and it wasn't that big of a deal...
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If you want to crank a motor pull start the biggest motor you can the only option you really have is an ETec (not 4 stroke like you asked, but they are dang easy to start and don't even require a battery to run). I've pull started my 115's with ease. There are some youtube videos showing this even up to 200hp.If this helps great, if not, I was never here.
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Man, there are a few rules that apply when you turn 60. They are in no particular order

never trust a fart
never pass a bathroom
never ignore a stiffy even if you are alone
never try to pull start anything with more than 10 hp.
there' s another one in there but I forgot it
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I'm a bit offended that you called me old! I'm the only one that can do that. Anyway, they guy next door deals with handicap assistance. He sells something that won't allow the battery to deplete to a point where it won't start the engine. The idea on a handicap van is so that the door locks and lift will operate so someone in a wheelchair won't be locked out. If you have any interest in that I can get the name for you.
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Hmmm, several ideas to keep this from being a problem. I would always want electric start as I age, Heck I want it now but late 40's

1. Cell Phone as I assume your talking inshore with small motor talk
2. Sat Phone if cell phone wont work
3. extra battery
4. Sea Tow memebership
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The 2 stroke option might work, just something I don't normally think about. Don't know why I wouldn't want more then a 10 hp to pull start all because I turn 60. I'm not a big guy but I also don't plan on being out of shape where I can't pull start a small motor. Like I said seatow would be out as they'd never get back to where I was with their boats anyway. Me being 60 is still more then a few years away but I will look into that device that stops a batt from discharging too much. I've heard of them before but forgot about them and how it would help in this case.
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I'm still not sure why you are concerned about your battery discharging too much. What are you doing back in those marshes that would discharge a battery?

There are several types of battery "tenders" for while you're towing or on land. My fish finder has an alarm if the battery goes below a certain set point (leaves enough to start the engine).

BTW, the Sea Tow or USBoats have a hard "inflatable" in this area that can get into inches of water.

Again, to me, it's more likely to have engine trouble than to have a battery problem.
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I'm still not sure why you are concerned about your battery discharging too much. What are you doing back in those marshes that would discharge a battery?

There are several types of battery "tenders" for while you're towing or on land. My fish finder has an alarm if the battery goes below a certain set point (leaves enough to start the engine).

BTW, the Sea Tow or USBoats have a hard "inflatable" in this area that can get into inches of water.

Again, to me, it's more likely to have engine trouble than to have a battery problem.
If sea tow or alike has a tender that's fine, again I can't get a big boat back in these waters but with age you carry a bit more gear and want something to push it better, maybe my fear is misplaced, but I like the option of being able to pull start a motor.
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If sea tow or alike has a tender that's fine, again I can't get a big boat back in these waters but with age you carry a bit more gear and want something to push it better, maybe my fear is misplaced, but I like the option of being able to pull start a motor.
When's the last time you push started a car?

I understand your comments, but again, based on the improvements in motors and the simple fact that you're asking the question means you're going to pay attention to maintenance and condition. Replacing your battery every 3 years, and having a second battery that you use correctly, should all but eliminate dead battery problems.

If that was too much hassle - a portable jumper battery, or a second battery and a set of jumper cables are all you need. But, I don't know how big a boat you're talking about.

I do think it's interesting that people can pull start a big etec.
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I had a Merc 2 stroke 90 HP on my Montauk. It had an "emergency" rope under the cowl, so I tried it one day. Engine was still a bit warm but it started without a second pull.
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