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Old 04-08-2012, 12:18 AM
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The Fukushima nuclear plant is still a catastrophe waiting to happen. Reactor #4 fuel storage pool could collapse resulting in a meltdown releasing cesium around the globe.

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Old 04-08-2012, 04:39 AM
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We are already contaminated here on the West coast. Radiation from Fukushima is in the water, on farm vegetables, in cows, beef, milk and other dairy products. Some folks in San Diego are measuring the radiation levels in the kelp canopy in the sea. So far, nothing in food above "legal, safe limits". But the radiation is accumulative ... what is here stays here, and more radioactive particles keep coming from the wind. Someone north of San Francisco bought a load of manure compost for their garden. It measures 2.5-times over the safe limits for radiation.

If reactor #4's cooling pond goes, the West Coast of the US and Canada will become uninhabitable, at a minimum. The radiation could cause folks all the way over to the East Coast to shelter-in-place for a long time. The safeest place will be the southern hemisphere, and avoid the oceans and all sea food.

The good news is Japan says they are going to address this concern ... in Dec 2013. The bad news is a any large earthquake in that area will knock out reactor #4's cooling pond. The likelihood of such an earthquake is 85% within the next 1-months, 95% within the next 36-months.

There is no preparing for reactor #4's cooling pool failure ... there is nothing anyone can do.
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Fuel tanks to the emergency generators being the weakest link in the whole chain. When the tanks got washed away. the generators and pumps could not run. Now! why is not every thing possible being done?? To repair and make safe any and all situations. Like most things today. control of information is the biggest threat.
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Fuel tanks to the emergency generators being the weakest link in the whole chain. When the tanks got washed away. the generators and pumps could not run. Now! why is not every thing possible being done?? To repair and make safe any and all situations. Like most things today. control of information is the biggest threat.

The fuel tanks were not the problem initially, tho they could have become so over time ... the generators in the basement were the problem from the start.

In the 1980's there was a recommendation in the US to protect the location of the backup generators ... get them out of the basement and up high. That recommendation was copied and put into a report TEPCO filed with the Japanese govt in the 1990's. Then TEPCO did nothing about it. In the US the generators would have been accessible, in Fukushima they were underwater in the basement with no way to pump the water out.

The power lines into the complex were gone. The employees at Fukushima when out and collected batteries from cars and trucks and anything and everything that had a battery. Then the wired all those batteries together to get enough power to start the generators. Then they discovered they could get to the power panels to tap in the battery power because those panels were in the basement with the generators.
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Fuel tanks to the emergency generators being the weakest link in the whole chain. When the tanks got washed away. the generators and pumps could not run. Now! why is not every thing possible being done?? To repair and make safe any and all situations. Like most things today. control of information is the biggest threat.
reminds me of an oil spill in the gulf...
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The Radiation from California is not coming from Japan,
that's what they say not to scare people, is coming from the San Onofre plant
in California!!!
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I really have become quite cynical of dooms day predictions.
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I really have become quite cynical of dooms day predictions.
I'm right there with you! It's as if some people actually WANT these types of things to happen! They become soooooooooooo dramatic and emotional it's very comical and funny!

After spending just 15 minutes of research on the subject, this symbol sums up my reaction fairly well.....
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Yep I agree. Somebody posted this a while back. Watch this clip. I am not sure we can radiate ourselves more than we already have.

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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
I'm right there with you! It's as if some people actually WANT these types of things to happen! They become soooooooooooo dramatic and emotional it's very comical and funny!

After spending just 15 minutes of research on the subject, this symbol sums up my reaction fairly well.....

Mention Global Warming to the same crowd and see what reaction you will get. It is a very selective doomsday prediction.
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I was still living in America, San Onofre was having safety issues,
and because of the money, they did not want to shut it down, I´m not anti nuclear, however I´m glad they shut the thing down for a while, now they are saying is not safe to bring it online,
it must be baloney...
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The radiation was coming from San Onofre, despite the problems they did not want to shut it off...

All about the almighty dollar!!!

http://www.inquisitr.com/645109/san-...e-broomsticks/
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Splain to me why they would build a 7 storey building, and then put a fuel rod storage pool on storey's 3 and 4?....(who the f*** wants to work in storey's one and two?)........ and then put the backup generators in the basement?

Seems to defy logic.

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It's not like earthquakes are uncommon in Japan. They are right on a triple fault line so, HTF do you build a half-assed nuclear facility without a lot of planning? If a plant cannot be constructed to withstand the worst case earthquake, then don't build one.
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The warm and fuzzy thing about this plant in Japan is that it is being used as an experience generator for the company that built it. I heard just yesterday that Turkey has signed a huge deal with the same Japanese company to build a new plant in Turkey. The comment was that by now the Japanese have figured out how to do it safely. You just can't make this sh*t up.
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Could collapse. So could any number of other things. How is it a disaster if it could.

You nuclear physicists are amazing.

How many died from Fukashima Daiichi radiation again?

You should be way more worried if you TIG weld with thoriated rod. Or sitting around a bonfire.
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You should be way more worried if you TIG weld with thoriated rod. Or sitting around a bonfire.
Are you saying I shouldn't tig weld around a bonfire?
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Are you saying I shouldn't tig weld around a bonfire?
I think he's saying you shoudn't sit around a bonfire, roasting marshmellows on a thoriated rod.
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Could collapse. So could any number of other things. How is it a disaster if it could.

You nuclear physicists are amazing.

How many died from Fukashima Daiichi radiation again?

You should be way more worried if you TIG weld with thoriated rod. Or sitting around a bonfire.
The fuel pool will not run out of cooling water so this is a nonissue. TEPCO has three sources of additional water.
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