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Old 04-06-2012, 12:02 PM
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Question John Deere Lawn Tractors??

Hey everyone,

I once again come to you with a quesiton. I am looking to purchase a new tractor to use around the yard,(mowing, etc). The old sears tractor needs a rest. I have looked at a couple of models but I figured I would ask if anyone had any experience with them before i went ahead with the purchase. The two models I am looking at is a D140 and a D170. Obviously the 170 is a larger mower deck/engine. Does anyone have any experience/ own on of these tractors?

Any input is appreciated!

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Old 04-06-2012, 12:22 PM
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I own a GT235 and it's been great. Has a lot of hours and is used hard and has been well-worth the money imho. I am not familiar with the models you mentioned but my advice is if you go JD get a "real" Deere from a Deere dealer - not a box store model.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:41 PM
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I believe that the JD tractors sold in Lowes are uncrated, assembled (what little bit is required) and test run by the local JD dealer in the Lowes store. Lowes employees cannot touch them.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:47 PM
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I believe that the JD tractors sold in Lowes are uncrated, assembled (what little bit is required) and test run by the local JD dealer in the Lowes store. Lowes employees cannot touch them.
Don't get caught believing they have been checked by a JD technician. Make sure it has before you have a problem with the machine and find out its not warrenteed. The ones at home depot have to go to a JD dealer so they can check to see if they have been preped correctly. The cost for that brings up the machine cost to where you would have been smart to buy it at a JDeere dealer to start with. I've had one for many years.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:55 PM
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I have a JD X485 love it best tractor and last tractor I'll ever have to buy. Have it since March 2005, use it to mow and have 48in snow thrower for it.

But I would not buy from HD or Lowes. I would only get from a JD shop. The ones at the big box store’s are not built to the same specs only built for HD and Lowes, nor can you buy them from a JD store. Spend the money and never have to buy again with proper maintenance.
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I would also chime in for buying from a dealer not a box store. They are different models and allot higher quality. I was in the same position as you last year, that was until I found the closest John Deere dealer was about 4 hours away. I was pretty much was left with cub cadet and kubota. I went with cub cadet 2100 with a fabricated deck and have been pretty happy with it.
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Not to hijack thread but a pertinent post anyway. The myth of box stores not selling the same as a dealer is just that, a myth. At least it is true of Toro and that came right from toro corporate. I ended up buying from a dealer anyway and paying considerably more for the same item hoping the service would make up for it....not with my dealer though.

Of course this is comparing identical models.
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Those box store models are the same ones JD has on there showroom floor......and they aren't built to typical JD standards either. A $1,500-2,000 JD is a "craftsman/murray/etc" painted green.

That being said, the higher end craftsman "tractor" has been plenty for my limited use for years.
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I am not a brand name shopper but why do they do this - Ok I know its all about the $$$, but I would be really really pizzed if I was a JD or Cub Cadet Dealer (great local shop here where I get all my small engine repairs that I can't do) . I also always thought the were different cheaper models they sold in the bad stores??? That they are from a different manufacture than JD or that JD uses is also unbelieveable, and somewhat unethical in my mind.

Whatever have fun..its almost cut the lawn time here already! If we ever get rain you are going to hear the roar of the grass grow. If mot it will be the roar of the woods on fire.
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Originally Posted by NJFISH View Post
Not to hijack thread but a pertinent post anyway. The myth of box stores not selling the same as a dealer is just that, a myth. At least it is true of Toro and that came right from toro corporate. I ended up buying from a dealer anyway and paying considerably more for the same item hoping the service would make up for it....not with my dealer though.

Of course this is comparing identical models.
Well said and yes with JD it is just a myth as well, the only difference between the Home Depot, Lowe's JD and the one purchased from a true JD dealer are the engine's, the box store engine's are Brigg's and the engine's from a true JD dealer are I believe Kayasaki.
That being said even though the box stores engine is a Brigg's the engine is built to JD spec's and requires one to bring the mower to a JD dealer or part's would have to be specially ordered from JD. .
I know most people here don't like purchasing their mower from 1 of the big 2 home improvement store's but the JD mower's whether it be an EZ trak or a lawn tractor are just as good as one purchased from a true JD dealer.
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The only people who I have ever heard say "the big box are crap compared to dealers" are people who bought them from dealers. In today's internet world I would think there would be some absolute proof on the low end riding mowers, but there isn't. Remember guys, these are residential grass cutting machines, we are not farming the poderosa.

That said I bought a "cheapo poorly made JD from home depot" 5 years ago. I bought it to ride my fat ass around the yard and cut the grass, haul a small trailer, spreader and core aerator all of which it has done an impeccable job except for tires losing air and replacing the battery every 2 years it is everything I ever wanted in a riding lawnmower and would highly recommend it to anyone interested. I'm not sure how a more expensive model would do all these chores better or what I missed out on by not buying from a dealer but I was just looking for something to get the job done and it has been wonderful.

Compared to the old MTD's with the shifting transmission that try to buck you off this thing is a fricken cadillac...

Oh and I cut 1 acre and maintain 5 in woods with my cheapo JD.

Hope this helps.
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I'm not sure where the naysayers get their info.....but the box store models ARE different than those sold by JD dealers. I looked into it when I bought mine and on close inspection there is a world of difference in quality. Spoke to a dealer, and then confirmed it with an honest box store gent.....the box store models are built to last 8 years compared to 20 years for the real JDs.

Believe it or not......but if you drive both you'll know what I mean.

PS.....I agree it is unethical and misleading, but that's the world we've allowed to be created.
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My fiend has one and is happy with it. And he's cynical about mostly everything.
He has 2 acres, and they use it as a tractor. It cuts gras, and hauls stuff around in a small trailer they bought for it.
They bought it at Lowes.
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Newer JD lawn & garden tractors lasting 20+ years is a joke. Maybe if you replace most parts after the first 10. Look for used (not abused) older models with a Kohler or Kawasaki twin. Same for a IH Cub Cadet or Wheel Horse. Some around me still using old Craftsman vintage 1970....
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JD wanted to get into the lower priced market, probably influenced by HD and Lowes. The only way to lower cost is to build cheaper. And that is what they did. That being said, I bought my JD in 2004 from HD for about 1800. It is a L110 with 42" deck and the Kohler engine. I have an acre and have been using it sin e I bought it. Yes I've had to replace wear parts but that goes for anything.
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Originally Posted by vertigo View Post
Well said and yes with JD it is just a myth as well, the only difference between the Home Depot, Lowe's JD and the one purchased from a true JD dealer are the engine's, the box store engine's are Brigg's and the engine's from a true JD dealer are I believe Kayasaki.
Simply not true. Look at the frame and bolt on components, as well as the engine.
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All current 100 series riding lawnmowers are made in Tennessee by John Deere, have
Briggs engines, and are sold by both JD dealers and Home Depot and Lowes. They are identical in all respects including price. Higher series are only sold at JD and have Kawasaki engines, much stronger components, and better durability overall.

I bought my 115 at Lowe's and my local JD dealer has provided excellent service.
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Originally Posted by osudaddy View Post
Simply not true. Look at the frame and bolt on components, as well as the engine.
Aside from the engine's and a very few small change's depending on whether a zero turn or riding mower there are no practical " cheapness " difference's, and that came from a strictly JD dealer. For what it's worth I do not have a lawn tractor, I have a JD Zero turn I purchased from HD 4 year's ago with 289 hour's on the clock and I do not baby it. I have pulled medium sized tree's 10" dia from one end of my property to the other quite a few time's with it. I also cut 7 1/2 acre's of property every other week with my cheapo box store JD. Other than replacing the battery, changing the oil and blade's I have had no problem's and would buy from the big box store again in a heartbeat.
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Well I bought a JD from a dealer 2 years ago and I think I got a lemon and they are not willing to work with me. I bought an X324 w/ hyrostatic transmission. It did great for the first 60 hrs. Then a belt snapped. I brought it back to the dealer and asked if they would replace it under warranty, no deal. You could tell it was a defective belt plan as day. All he said was leave us the belt, we`ll send it off to the warranty dept and they will decide. I never heard back from them. I bought this machine because they told me the mowing deck was a heaver gauge metal and even if your mowing with sand patches in your grass it will hold up 5 to 10 years longer than the box store version. Well this year I started out and I`ve got 2 holes in my deck that are starting to cut into the belts. I`ve got 285 hrs on the mower and they will not replace the deck under warranty. I have 15hrs left on the manufacter warranty. So now i`m having to weld my own plates over the holes to get a few more years out of the mowing deck before I have to replace the whole thing. My opinion of JD THEY SUCK.
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I cut around 5 acres once aweek for 8 months a year and the D145 I have has handled it perfectly. I DO maintain it well, clean it etc....700 plus hours so far. I bought it used with 75 hours from some crackhead off Craigslist for 1400.00 so I
consider it disposable anyway.
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