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Old 03-05-2012, 05:43 PM
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I started a thread a little while back about wood working and now I am things about getting some more tools. I am going to be looking at a new table saw, router, router table, and something for pocket cuts. I want the router table for tongue and groove or shaping work. I just like pocket cuts more than counter sinking. My restrictions are size, I don't have a work shop so I need as much of this to be placed on some shelving in the garage so my fiance can still park in there. I have a lot of shelving space so it just has to be able to be broken down with folding legs. I looked at a Bosch router/ router table at Lowe's and haven't really gotten into table saws yet, but what do yall work with as far a saws, routers, tables, cutters, etc...? I do know that the table saw will need a good fence.


Working with wood MIGHT save some money in the long run, but it is just as expensive as offshore fishing to get into. Also, I do have to do this on a mild budget over time, so I can't get a $5000.00 table saw even though that would be cool as hell.
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All my stuff is 3phase, heavy duty industrial stuff, but you cant go wrong with a Unisaw, or even a knockoff of a unisaw (I worked in a shop with a $400 Grizzly and was surprised how decent it was). If you have the saw on a mobile base, you can fab up a router table on the extension wing if you are pressed for space, its not ideal because if you suddenly need to cut plywood you would have to break down the router setup, but in tight quarters it would work.
I would look on craigslist and buy what I needed, just dont buy stuff thats been used in a production setting, but buy routers, etc from a homeowner instead.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:53 AM
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If you are going to get into this, you need a jointer / planer / table saw. Look for a used Unisaw (mine is 20+ years old) and put everything on a mobile bases. You can fit a decent workshop in a garage.

Get the best dust collection you can and build from there. Power requirements may be a problem. 220 is much better.

I would avoid all the low cost stuff, you get what you pay for. If the precision is not consistent you will have a short lived hobby.

My greatly reduced collection works well:
Delta Unisaw
Delta DJ20
15-20" Powermatic planer (I have the 20)
Minimax bandsaw
Anything Festool

Kind of like boating and fuel, don't forget the WOOD!
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220 only, there is no substitute. x2 on the Unisaw, 6" long table Delta jointer and 12" planer to start. For a chop saw, compound slide if good, but a good used Dewalt Radial Arm is the same money, just uses more space. After that, a router, and add bits and blades.. A setup like this buying used will run you $2500 for good used stuff and will fetch that amount in the future.
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All of the above advice is good. To me a good contractor table saw is sufficient for a hobby shop if budget is an issue. Mobile bases are a must, especially for tools that don't see a lot of use. And while dust collection might seem like a luxury, you (and your lungs) will be glad you did it. Same goes for ear protection.
But the simplest and best advice I've always heard is "buy the best tools you can afford".
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Originally Posted by ytmorris View Post
I am going to be looking at a new table saw, router, router table, and something for pocket cuts. I want the router table for tongue and groove or shaping work. I just like pocket cuts more than counter sinking. My restrictions are size, I don't have a work shop so I need as much of this to be placed on some shelving in the garage so my fiance can still park in there. I have a lot of shelving space so it just has to be able to be broken down with folding legs. I

I do know that the table saw will need a good fence.
Your pocket hole requirements, would a tool like this suit your needs or it would not because you need to cut your pockets in the middle of much larger pieces of wood?
http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-5...ef=pd_sxp_f_pt

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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
I can design you a totally protable table saw/ router table that you could roll over to your neighbors yet as solid as any cabinet saw. A saw that you can break down in one/ two minutes without tools and hang on the wall. A saw that will have more than twice the surface space as any bought cabinet saw. Yes this table saw will have a top quality aftermarket fence system pluse a whole bunch more.
Put some designs or pictures up so we can all see it, Garett.

To the op, you can do a lot of your table saw work with a track saw.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:18 PM
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I am leaning towards picking up a Bosch router tomorrow with the fixed and plunge base. Next will be a router table, home made or bought. I am going to borrow my buddies contractor folding tablesaw this week and play with it. I haven't picked one up but I did see that pocket cutting jig that clamps on and can be used with a drill. I realize this is not ideal but like I said, there is some budgetary concerns. I don't have 2-3 grand to throw at it right now since my fiance has decided she wanted new counter tops and a few other things I don't know how to make for the house.
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I bought this table saw about 3 years ago, and couldn't be happier. From what you posted, it seems to meet your needs. It is 220v or 110v. Please do yourself a favor and look at the saw, if you think you might be interested... read the reviews. Replace the stock blade with a good one.

4.6 out of 5, with 97 reviews.
Just about all of the negative reviews are people that obviously can't read directions.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...5X-_-202500206
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Ifishalot, That one looks great and I could probably make it work except there is not a Home Depot within an hour and a half from here. Does it fold up at all for storage?
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Ifishalot, That one looks great and I could probably make it work except there is not a Home Depot within an hour and a half from here. Does it fold up at all for storage?
No, it does not fold up. It has a lift system so you can roll it around then drop the legs for stability. It is super quiet, will pass the "nickel" test and will mow through some tough wood. For the price, you can't beat it. Like I said, read the reviews... even some pros chime in.
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Just bought another Bosch portable table saw. I love the gravity rise stand and ease of portability. I use Porter Cable routers almost exclusively. Check out Festool also. The Domino is really cool. They have great dust collection products as well.
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