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Old 03-05-2012, 01:18 PM
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I never dreamed I would be saying this because I have owned nothing but Windows based machines since Microsoft Windows 3.0! I admit I have had a couple of machines that had hardware failure but the majority of the problems were software related, especially after a years worth of updates.

My last machine was an Asus, Windows 7, Core i7 processor, 8 gig of ram, dual 320 gig hard drives, and ATi graphics. Everything was beautiful for the first 15 months and now it is giving me a fit. I saved my important data, wiped it clean and restored it back from the image file on the drive. Once again it worked great, that is until I started doing all of the Windows updates. About halfway through the update process I started having problems once again just like before. Freezing and crashes all over again.

Just for fun I once again wiped the machine and did a clean install except this time no updates from Microsoft. It ran perfect with no errors for a week. That pretty much tells me that something with one of the updates is causing the problem, but since there are over 100 updates I have no idea which one is causing it. Anyway, today I bought a Macbook Pro and I am going to try it and see how I feel.

On a side note, I guess it is a good thing that they don't supply software for our chartplotters otherwise we would all be back to using a compass!
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I run only XP. It is stable, does not hog memory and just plain works. I believe a lot of the operating systems that Microsoft has released are written only so they have something new to sell, rather than being written to improve their software.
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Unless all you do is browse the web, you might want to hang on to the Asus if you plan on actually running any software. Or do you plan to install Windows on it like some morons do? Never understood that one myself. They spend twice as much for a computer to get away from Windows just to turn around and install Windows on it when they realize the software they need isn't made for the Mac.

Anyway, if you decide to let the Asus go, I will take it off your hands.
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You will love the MacBook Pro!

I started using PCs in the early 80's, when IBM came out with their line of PC computers. Starting with DOS 3.0 and every version since of Microsoft's operating systems up through Windows 7. I also started using Macs in 1994 (bought my son one for his third birthday). 30 seconds after booting up my first Mac, I was hooked.

Continued to use both systems both at home and at work up through last year, when I retired. At home we migrated to exclusively Mac several years ago. Although I enjoyed System 7,8 and 9, OS X is light years better, and that includes Windows 7 (IMHO).

For Windows, I still actually prefer XP. Not as many bells and whistles, but it does work well. OS X continues to get better and better, although I am withholding judgment on Lion for the time being (not enough time on it yet).

There is a reason that Apple has become a great success. Once exposed to their OS, most people don't want to go back to Windows. OS X simply works.
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Originally Posted by budbrande View Post

My last machine was an Asus, Windows 7, Core i7 processor, 8 gig of ram, dual 320 gig hard drives, and ATi graphics.
If you want to keep it, you can always install Mint/Ubuntu or make a Hackintosh out of it.
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I was a PC follower for many years....the wife got a macbook pro for school a few years back and I told her I wouldn't drink the Kool-Aid and follow her lead.....low and behold, three years later, my PC died and I bought a MacBook.....absolutely love it....took a little getting used to, but not gonna switch back
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I never dreamed I would be saying this because I have owned nothing but Windows based machines since Microsoft Windows 3.0! I admit I have had a couple of machines that had hardware failure but the majority of the problems were software related, especially after a years worth of updates.

My last machine was an Asus, Windows 7, Core i7 processor, 8 gig of ram, dual 320 gig hard drives, and ATi graphics. Everything was beautiful for the first 15 months and now it is giving me a fit. I saved my important data, wiped it clean and restored it back from the image file on the drive. Once again it worked great, that is until I started doing all of the Windows updates. About halfway through the update process I started having problems once again just like before. Freezing and crashes all over again.

Just for fun I once again wiped the machine and did a clean install except this time no updates from Microsoft. It ran perfect with no errors for a week. That pretty much tells me that something with one of the updates is causing the problem, but since there are over 100 updates I have no idea which one is causing it. Anyway, today I bought a Macbook Pro and I am going to try it and see how I feel.

On a side note, I guess it is a good thing that they don't supply software for our chartplotters otherwise we would all be back to using a compass!
You'll have nothing but problems with the Mac Book Pro
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Or do you plan to install Windows on it like some morons do? Never understood that one myself..
There is a lot of vertical market engineering software that only runs on winblows. I have many customers who use bootcamp to run win in order to run our software. Funny thing is, XP runs faster and is more stable running on the mac! I recommend that combination to my customers.
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Two hours on the Mac and i am loving it. As for software, most of the things I use are actually geared towards the Mac instead of Windows. I don't do any gaming and instead use Adobe Photoshop, Premier Pro, Canon Digital Photo Professional, etc. Mostly editing photos and a lot of HD video stuff. I admit I have always been a PC guy and it will take some getting used to but I would rather learn a new OS than deal with headaches.
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Spend some time to learn about Preview. It's probably the most useful app in your dock, but most people don't know how powerful it is. You can open and merge pdfs, open and edit photos without using iPhoto, use it to convert one graphic format to another, and use it to control your scanner. In fact, you can set pdfs to open automatically in Preview (as the default helper app) and never need Adobe Acrobat Reader at all. Give it a shot. You'll like it.
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Spend some time to learn about Preview. It's probably the most useful app in your dock, but most people don't know how powerful it is. You can open and merge pdfs, open and edit photos without using iPhoto, use it to convert one graphic format to another, and use it to control your scanner. In fact, you can set pdfs to open automatically in Preview (as the default helper app) and never need Adobe Acrobat Reader at all. Give it a shot. You'll like it.


Apple has a ton of great tutorials online.......http://support.apple.com/videos/#macosandsoftware
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Apple has a ton of great tutorials online.......http://support.apple.com/videos/#macosandsoftware
Yes, but I'd say that most people don't read them until they are completely stumped (like all user manuals). How many casual computer users actually learn and use keyboard shortcuts? IMO, the hardest thing to teach anyone (any platform) is how to drill down through the directories to get to a photo or a file.

Oh yeah, learn command-f as soon as possible, too (Spotlight).
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how many times has it been said if you want your computer to live turn off microsofts updates.they eventually choke your machine to death
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Yes, but I'd say that most people don't read them until they are completely stumped (like all user manuals). How many casual computer users actually learn and use keyboard shortcuts? IMO, the hardest thing to teach anyone (any platform) is how to drill down through the directories to get to a photo or a file.

Oh yeah, learn command-f as soon as possible, too (Spotlight).
I spend 50% of my day working in Illustrator and Photoshop, keyboard short cuts are my life
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We're stuck with a lousy business program which only runs under a windows environment (20-20). Many business programs are written only for windows. and the new version we upgraded (?) to only runs under windows 7. I liked windowsXP, but it only supported 2 or 4 GB of memory which wasn't adequate for CAD.
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If I could get my boss to sign off on it, I'd replace my work laptop with a MBP and run all my windows stuff in a VM. I already have VM's for win7, Mint, and Backtrack, now I just need the macbook.

I wish they weren't so overpriced. I looked at a 15" MBP, 2.5GHz with 8gb of memory - $2,649. Ouch. A 17" with all the bells and whistles runs about $5,595.
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Did you try looking here? http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

Same warrantees, I have not bought a "New" Apple desktop or laptop in 6 or 7 years
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I looked at a 15" MBP, 2.5GHz with 8gb of memory - $2,649. Ouch. A 17" with all the bells and whistles runs about $5,595.
You don't have to shop at an Apple store.They are a bit cheaper elsewhere, plus you can buy 8 gigs RAM for 148 (16 for 244) and resell the original 4 gigs on eBay. I get my RAM at Other World Computing
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If I could get my boss to sign off on it, I'd replace my work laptop with a MBP and run all my windows stuff in a VM. I already have VM's for win7, Mint, and Backtrack, now I just need the macbook.

I wish they weren't so overpriced. I looked at a 15" MBP, 2.5GHz with 8gb of memory - $2,649. Ouch. A 17" with all the bells and whistles runs about $5,595.
Where the heck are you getting $5595.00????

Even with adding the 512 GB SSD drive its $3599.00
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