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Old 03-03-2012, 03:32 PM
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OK, so I'll expect a certain number of responses to say, "Hey, man, it's only 7 years old...give it more time".

My PC is slow; painfully slow even with DSL. I doubled RAM to 512...for marginal improvement, and then I went to Office Depot and got amazed.

He showed me a HP TouchSmart 520-1030 for about $900. What I liked most was the lack of cords; there's a power cord and nothing else. That means I can move around the house and still have a mouse and full-sized keyboard to play with.

16X more RAM has to be a visible improvement. Memory isn't relevant to me because I don't store movies or songs, so what I liked was:

Portability
Large RAM'
Large screen (23")
No wires or speakers (built-in)

Given what my meager needs are, is there something else to consider for that price or less? Again, no bangin' gizmos for me; I just want access to THT and Google search.
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Old 03-03-2012, 03:43 PM
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Is the one you are looking at upgradeable? If not how long are you planning on using it for? Computer electronics don't last forever and if its upgradeable then that means the parts are replaceable. ....which means even if you never plan on upgrading it you can always fix only what breaks. If its not upgradeable then you'd probably be looking at buying another computer if the repair is needed after the warranty is out.
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Scored third lowest in PC Magazines testing behind the Toshiba DX735-D3201 and the Sony VAIO VPC-L231FX/W. The sony was their top and is $100 more.

The options that mattered to them may not matter to you.
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Have you considered a tablet? My wife bought me an i-pad and it is much faster than my 7 year old dell. I think they cost around $300.00 . Smaller screen 10 " diag
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I've had a HP touch-smart for better than a year, and so far it's been functionally reliable. That said I'd never buy another one myself. It comes with way to much bloated built in software installed. Seriously it gets to the point where you don't want to shut it down in the evening simply because you'll be enjoying a half a cup of fresh brewed coffee in the morning before all the HP stuff loads up and you have access to your computer, and this is only if you start the computer before you start the coffee. It's got Way, Way to much excessive baggage to suit me...
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:24 PM
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It's got Way, Way to much excessive baggage to suit me...
Wow, that's interesting because extra baggage is a sore point with the HP printers that I've had. The latest version, a 4500, loads 131MB on the main, and 5 other programs for another 50MB.

I would prefer a larger screen, and really think that having a full-sized keyboard is a Need.

Wendy's point about being up-gradable or fixable is valid, too. My old PC can be operated on by a caveman, and this new thing needs seabob4 or better.....but it's waaaay cool compared to what I have now. Still worth a thought...so what else to look for that gives all that was said before, but maybe doesn't load 200MB of software at the same time?
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When the THT virus hit my computer, it ended up in the computer repair shop. He ended up dumping everything and reinstalling and updating. Cost me $200 and the thing is night and day. While I was there, he showed me a computer that he was completely rebuilding. The rebuilt made no fan noise. He said something about it being (something)?, so it made little or no heat. It was still the XP OS that the client wanted, but smoking fast.

The next week, my GF's laptop had several issues and he did a complete update. 4X's the memory, I don't know how much faster (much faster) and changed it from Vista to Windows 7.

I talked to him about building a new computer and he did wait for Windows 8. I'm like you, I don't need much, so my XP Office PRO is fine, but whatever he did, it's remarkable how much faster it works with no problems.
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Get a MAC! You'll never look back! 2 years without a hiccup!
A bit more $$ to start, but I've spent nothing on repairs and no
down time heartache!
Something to consider! Good luck!
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Originally Posted by mronzo View Post
Get a MAC! You'll never look back! 2 years without a hiccup!
A bit more $$ to start, but I've spent nothing on repairs and no
down time heartache!
Something to consider! Good luck!


I have had mine for 7 yrs, NEVER been to the shop or had to do anything with it, the best is, I (after about a half hour of loading up all the garbage that it came with) got my 3 mo old Dell online (the last time I used it) to order this MAC, never been frustrated with it, and happy as a pig in chit with it, STILL

Although I do like the 27" screen they have now
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First of all...... mac's vs. pc's. You dummies will someday get your mac's infected with something... the hardware is virtually the same. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVENT HAD A PROBLEM doesn't mean Mac is perfect.

In fact, when things go wrong on a mac it costs BIG BUCKS to fix, that's kind of the plan.

Secondly RAM is not where you store movies. Ram is like a window in your house, you can only fit so much through it at one time. The more RAM you have, the more stuff you can do at once without the computer slowing down.

512k ram is pathetic in this day and age. Win7 needs 1gig minimum. 2Gigs is the least I'll ever put in a computer for a client.

The problem with the all in one units (aka touchsmart, dell xps one) is that they use laptop parts to make them. Then they all pretty much have heat/dust issues and if ANY part of it goes bad, there's no way to replace just that part, it's total upgrade part.


What would I say you should do?

I would agree that a Mac is a good option, not because they are gods gift to computers, but because they are easy to use and virius makers have not declared war on them yet. I see plenty of macs with hardware issues and as I said it takes forever and $$$$ to fix them.

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And if you want look real cool, wear a fedora and you can surf the web at Starbucks with one.
Yes, absolutely, You cannot get cooler then this!!



I'm one of many who repair computers daily, while I do think people who blindly say "buy a mac they are the next coming of christ" are morons......they do have their place. Which is usually at home.

I absolutely love the people who think "macs are better for video and art work"

Those people don't get much respect from me.


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Originally Posted by thajeffski View Post
First of all...... mac's vs. pc's. You dummies will someday get your mac's infected with something... the hardware is virtually the same. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVENT HAD A PROBLEM doesn't mean Mac is perfect.

In fact, when things go wrong on a mac it costs BIG BUCKS to fix, that's kind of the plan.


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Any program can be written for a PC by anybody, that is why PC's get viruses, in order for a program to be installed in a Mac, Mac must inspect and approve it..

That my friend is why Macs don't get viruses

7 yrs of internet searching, not one virus I guess my someday hasn't came yet
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Originally Posted by thajeffski View Post



I absolutely love the people who think "macs are better for video and art work"

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Have much experience with a Mac pro Oh wait, you work on PC's
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Originally Posted by blackfinmike View Post
Any program can be written for a PC by anybody, that is why PC's get viruses, in order for a program to be installed in a Mac, Mac must inspect and approve it..

That my friend is why Macs don't get viruses

7 yrs of internet searching, not one virus I guess my someday hasn't came yet
LoL, that's bullshit buddy, you have no idea what you are talking about.

You're confusing it with the itunes store. Any Application for ipod/ipad/iphone must be approved, but I ASSURE you that mac's do get viruses, I have fixed more and more with every week that goes by and that ANYONE can write a program for a mac.

This is why people hate you mac users who go around calling them gifts from god, because you dont even know what you're talking about.


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Originally Posted by blackfinmike View Post
Have much experience with a Mac pro Oh wait, you work on PC's
The fact of the matter is that no professional movie editor uses imovie or idvd or iAnything.

They use Adobe premier pro, on either a mac or pc, it's the exact same program and would perform exactly the same on a mac or a pc with the same specs.

There's a couple other programs out there that people might use, but it's the same experience on either platform.
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Originally Posted by thajeffski View Post

This is why people hate you mac users who go around calling them gifts from god, because you dont even know what you're talking about.
The Mac's are not gifts from god, the users are

You are not worthy to speak of Macs
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The fact of the matter is that no professional movie editor uses imovie or idvd or iAnything.

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Dude, wrong again, My wife's best friends husband, guess what he does for a living, edits movies on a Mac

Dude, maybe I missed it, but Bamaboy say's he doesn't do anything with movies so why do you keep talking about movies
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For a variety of reasons, mostly laziness I am kind of stuck with Macs. They do break, our 6 year old i-Mac and 4 year old MacBook (after blowing through 2 hard drives over the years) both went Tango Uniform the past 6 months. I had viruses and glitches on both during their lifetime. For instance, every now and then the i-Mac would freeze so bad you had to unplug it to restart. The MacBook got a virus that had the so-called "genius" at the Apple store so flummoxed they just did a total refresh on the machine and sent the contents of the HD into corporate for analysis. A month later the hard drive died. There is a reason they now have Time Machine back up as a part of the OS. You MUST use it or risk certain death, which I learned after the first HD broke. A back up drive is absolutely needed with any new Mac from day one, and Time Machine makes it very easy.

Have to say those Sonys are beautiful machines, every bit as nice as our new i-Mac, sleeker in many ways. I played with them at CES and was very impressed. Once they have Windows 8 ironed out in a year or so, that would be da bomb.
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Originally Posted by blackfinmike View Post
Dude, wrong again, My wife's best friends husband, guess what he does for a living, edits movies on a Mac

Dude, maybe I missed it, but Bamaboy say's he doesn't do anything with movies so why do you keep talking about movies

You did miss it. Nobody who does professional video editing uses a mac ONLY program to do it. They use something that can be had on both pc and mac...and it doesn't magically perform better because it's on a mac.


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the best point made is that all in ones while great, are made with laptop parts. an uglier desktop version with a separate screen will typically be more powerful and cost less. these units like laptops are limited in upgradability. I use a mac laptop and i build my own pc desktops. ram is definitely a big factor for novice computer users, and it can usually be a cheap upgrade(its super easy to add later, computer manufacturers charge insane prices for ram) 4GB is the minimum a computer bought in 2012 should have.
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