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Old 02-29-2012, 01:25 PM
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Billable, just curious how long the research takes to find if an idea is new or not and costs associated with the search? Your description explains a lot of what I've wondered before.

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Old 02-29-2012, 01:33 PM
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Thanks for the info. So if I apply for a provisional for $125 or so then a year later I have to apply for a non provisional which costs approximately how much?
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:44 PM
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Garett, I don't know all of the IFs but I know they're out there and that is enough to scare me a little. Not enough to scare me away however. I know that there are a lot of risks involved and I know what will happen if I piss off one of the big names in the industry hence why I will take all the precautionary measures I can. The way I see it, I only have things to gain from this. If a big company tries to pull crap and bury me, I say bring it on. Everyone loves a good underdog story.

Sailfish, I don't want to publically say what it is I'm working on at this time. Heck, I don't even like telling people where my fishing holes are I will discuss if the idea gets shot down or when I have a working prototype and patent.
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:45 PM
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Perhaps a hijack, but hopefully related enough to matter. I'm reading this with great interest. I have made a product that I could not find for my own use and I'm getting a LOT of interest from others to buy them. I'm talking about an item that will sell for about $10 each with several million potential customers. Is an item with such a low price worth the expense of getting a patent? I guess what I would like to see happen is for me to sell them and advertise them nationally and have one of the big boys buyh me out. Any advise?
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:20 PM
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I thought that would be your answer...anyways seems like a complicated process the whole patent thing and I wish you the best of luck on trying to get a patent and make a good prototype.
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Billable, if I'm asking too much here, no problem. If "you," being well schooled on the patent process, came up with an idea that clearly had not been patented before and went full tilt into the patent process, what steps in chronological order would you take to insure success in patent process from discovery to to market?

I've got some family history that went south on an idea many years ago and currently know someone with direct knowledge of the Robert Kearn's ordeal whom I've been talking too. I've talked with one person who's brother was very successful with his idea/patent but only know 2nd hand how he did it; supposedly in his case, other manufacturers were repeatedly asking for his permission to use his patent.
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:18 PM
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Billable, if I'm asking too much here, no problem. If "you," being well schooled on the patent process, came up with an idea that clearly had not been patented before and went full tilt into the patent process, what steps in chronological order would you take to insure success in patent process from discovery to to market?

I've got some family history that went south on an idea many years ago and currently know someone with direct knowledge of the Robert Kearn's ordeal whom I've been talking too. I've talked with one person who's brother was very successful with his idea/patent but only know 2nd hand how he did it; supposedly in his case, other manufacturers were repeatedly asking for his permission to use his patent.

The patent process and going to market are two separate concepts.

The patent process hopefully leads you to an issued patent, which gives you the right to exclude others from practicing the invention defined by the claims. You do not need to be in the market yourself.

Going to market involves producing a product or conducting a process. You do not need a patent to be in the market.

In short, you do not need one to do the other . . .
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:00 AM
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Kearns worked with the mfr post patent in development which didn't work out well. The one that I mentioned was very successful had a shelving company and incorporated the patent in his shelf building process. My Grandfather probably had the 1st walk behind garden tractor in which he was told it had already been patented....1 year later to be patented by the guy that told him it had already been patented. We have a picture and the newspaper article on that one.

I've wondered if marketing the product upon pending status would help with any legal challenges? Or maybe it would attract challenges?

To clarify, I do have two very easy to produce products that haven't shown easily from my own search. I'm not really qualified to do that but if it did turn out to be a 1st, I could churn them out pretty quickly on my own and even faster via normal marketing. I have another a little more deeply involved idea that has the capacity to do extremely well. Along with that are multitudes of ideas, some dumb, some good and some worth mentioning. Thus my questions of how to best approach an idea to have the least legal challenge potential. It's not so much that I fear legal challenges, it's that I would rather not fight when there's a better way.

I only recently realized these ideas are somewhat unusual as I have always thought everyone with a mechanical aptitude did the same. And I'm finally coming to a point in my life where I have time to commit to making one or more go forward.

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