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Old 02-28-2012, 06:05 AM
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My cholesterol numbers continue to rise more specifically Tryglicerides and HDL (decreasing). My doctor is concerned that I am at a higher risk for a heart attack or stroke since my HDL is below 40.

I have been actively exercising at a moderate level for more than 6 years both cardio and weight lifting averaging 3 days/week. Although I am considered obese early 50's at 240lbs 6' height I very little belly fat since I row and use an elliptical on my non –lifting days.

Has anyone had any luck reducing their cholesterol through diet and exercise. I am not wanting to start meds and am committed to giving a more closely monitored diet a go since this is where I have my biggest vice.

The topic should read "Increase" HDL

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Diet seemed to make more of a difference for me than exercise. Stepping up my workouts didn't seem to move the needle at all, but maybe you only notice the difference if you go from couch potato to working out regularly.

In terms of diet, cutting out cholesterol again only made a small difference - the biggest difference was switching to omega 3's, switching my margarine to a spread with plant stanol esters, and gradually increasing fiber. If you start ingesting 15 grams of fiber a day without easing into it, you'll be farting all day long.
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I am going to give the diet a good go and supplements including the Omegas you mentioned.

My neighbor next door had triple bypass surgery 2 weeks ago 49 years old not to much different in overall health than myself other than he does not or did not workout regularly.

When visiting him in the hospital another neighbor was there and she has been a nurse for many years told his wife after she mentioned she was cooking healthier and shopping better the last few years that genetics played more of a role than anything else in contributing to his heart disease.

Needless to say after my required annual physical just so happening a few days after my visit with my neighbor and the results of the blood test this ahs me a bit concerned.

I went back to 2003 – 2008 lipid profile results and have seen a pattern of rising cholesterol. In 2003 at 43 yo I had really good numbers for LDL, Cholesterol and Triglycerides however HDL numbers were low and nearly identical to my latest numbers for HDL.

This getting old sucks
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Yes via Diet and weight control - and exercise was part of it. Those Lipitor pills made me sick
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Well it's good you cut out the margarine Jim, that stuff is as close to plastic as anything can get!!!!


Well if your HDL's are low and dropping you best get working on dropping the LDL's!

Maybe a product like this will interest you?
http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=21219
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovbe054zCNw
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Yes. With three things.

Oatmeal three times a week for breakfast.
Omega 3 fish oil every night before bed. I prefer liquid over pills.
Green vibrance drink with breakfast every day. This actually put an end to my diverticulitis also.
http://www.vibranthealth.us/?p2=/mod...category_id=86
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Yes. With three things.

Oatmeal three times a week for breakfast.
Omega 3 fish oil every night before bed. I prefer liquid over pills.
Green vibrance drink with breakfast every day.


x2. Get the Green Vibraince online at Amazon, huge savings.

Also, daily umeboshi, known for centuries to reduce blood pressure.
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I've been taking fish oil, and recently switched to krill oil to get my triglycerides down. Won't know if it is working until my next Dr. visit.
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For low HDL my doc had me get over the counter, water soluble niacin. It did the trick, but the doc likes to check my blood every year for signs that it is stressing my liver.
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The genetics you inherited from your parents are a big part of this and beyond your control. But some things can help.

I've exercised at least 5 days/week for 30 years, running, mainly. 6'0", 195, HDL has always been 56 or higher. Total cholesterol started to rise in my late 40's, so we made some changes to diet. Mid-60's now, doctor sees no need for cholesterol meds.

Wife makes oatmeal most mornings, we cook low-fat and rarely eat food prepared outside the home. I like to believe it has helped. I don't think owning a Camry has anything to do with it.

Good luck!
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Well it's good you cut out the margarine Jim, that stuff is as close to plastic as anything can get!!!!


Well if your HDL's are low and dropping you best get working on dropping the LDL's!
Maybe a product like this will interest you?
http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=21219
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovbe054zCNw


My LDL come in at 90 however
all that I have reading regarding HDL relative to LDL is that even if your (bad cholesterol) LDL is low HDL < 40 still puts you at a higher risk of a heart attack and stroke since higher level sweep fat lipids from the walls of arteries leading to the heart.
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
I don't think owning a Camry has anything to do with it.
oh yes it does. You are to embarrassed for the boyz in the hood to see you driving it so you go by foot everywhere you go. And since you are in the hood you don't trust walking, therefore you run everywhere you go. And because you run everywhere you go, you are now damn fast and the guys in the hood can't catch yah! so your fitness levels has everything to do with owning a Camry...does that about sum it up?

Also I can also understand why you guys mainly eat at home, you don't want any unnecessary lead in your diet...

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My LDL come in at 90 however
all that I have reading regarding HDL relative to LDL is that even if your (bad cholesterol) LDL is low HDL < 40 still puts you at a higher risk of a heart attack and stroke since higher level sweep fat lipids from the walls of arteries leading to the heart.

That is absolutely true, but the lower the LDL's are the less there is there to form a problem.....that's why I provided the two links I did. I have just recently started taking them.....I won't know what they are doing for me for another 4 1/2 months (my next test)...but I like the concept and therefore I'm optimistic.
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Cut out carbs, period. No sugar, wheat, cereal. Eat protein, fat, veggies. No starches (potatoes).

I want everyone to hear this, so all caps: EATING FAT (BACON, MEAT) DOES NOT INCREASE YOUR CHOLESTEROL.

Eating carbs does.

Atkin's Diet. It worked for me (5' 11" 175 but with ldl of 320+, now 120).
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Some of it is simply genetics. I'm 51 and finally gave in. I take a minimum dose of Pravastatin daily. For several years I was very tight on my diet and did a lot of cardio, mainly spinning classes 2-3 times a week. It brought my numbers down, but not enough. I resisted the meds as long as could. My dad has the same issue. Some people don't excercise, eat like crap and their levels are low, go figure.
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Originally Posted by skibum View Post

Cut out carbs, period. No sugar, wheat, cereal. Eat protein, fat, veggies. No starches (potatoes).

I want everyone to hear this, so all caps: EATING FAT (BACON, MEAT) DOES NOT INCREASE YOUR CHOLESTEROL.

Eating carbs does.
My Doc wanted to put me on Blood Pressure and Cholesterol meds so I started following the Paleo Solution/Primal Blueprint and will go for blood test in a few weeks. I certainly feel better eating as skibum mentioned above but will not know how much it helped until I get the test results back.
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Do you drink alcohol? If the liver is too busy processing alcohol, it will not process fat properly.
Just a thought.

Watching diet (to include alcohol) and exercise reduced my total count 40 points in 6 months.
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Do you drink alcohol? If the liver is too busy processing alcohol, it will not process fat properly.
Just a thought.

Watching diet (to include alcohol) and exercise reduced my total count 40 points in 6 months.
On the wagon for the next 5 weeks due to lent. Hopefully I can stick to a diet and in 90 days a retest. So at that point I am hoping my HDL goes up enough to make a difference without an Rx.
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like it was said before Oatmeal, it works!
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I have terrible genetics, 49yo

I take 6000 units of fish oil per day and Niacin at dinner time.

Also take 10mg Crestor, 100mg Trilipix.

Colesterol is still 180 , Trigs are 260 which is the best they ever were.(at the DR's today)


I've heard good things about Red Yeast Rice but don't take it with other Statins.
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