cgrand

alrite i ordered my .17hmr for rat dispatch, now the last thing i want for the armory is a zombie gun

i have read a ton, and keep coming back to the mini14
i like this one



i am reading that i can safely shoot 5.56 in this rifle, is that correct?
i am also reading that this platform is slightly more forgiving than that of the AR, and MAY be less likely to be finicky if cleaning/care ever became an issue

i am not looking for 200+yd dimes with it, my eyeballs can't see that far anyway

tell me the cons vs AR15 if any

thanks!

A Few Dollars

AR - better looking, mo available "stuff", mo accurate.

And I am a big Ruger fan. Never cared for the mini.

I would rather an AK over the mini.

cgrand

what dont you like?
i actually think the mini is better looking but thats a matter of taste
didnt consider an AK...thats approx .30 correct?

A Few Dollars

I just think they are funky looking.

Yeah, .311 for the AK

CLang

x2 for the AR....you can easily find hundreds of part vendors online to "trick out" and AR....you can buy a budget AR and step it up for a couple of hundred bucks and make it look like a great one...I have a Rock RIver lower that I love...my next one will be from American Precision Arms though....By the way, you come off a lot cheaper "building" your own AR...just my opinion though, both are great zombie weapons

cjd

CGrand, I agree on the looks of the Mini 14 as well. love it. I actually want the more stock version myself. Im not gonna argue with the experts on accuracy.


OK so can I do a minor thread hijack? Anyone have an opinion of the little Ruger pistol that shoots the .22 LR?

Shag

Get the best of both worlds and buy a Mini-30. Same reliable action but shoots AK ammo. Just a thought.

Mist-Rest

The mini to me always looked like a toy no matter how much shit is attached to it.

cgrand

thought about that but the ammo looks significantly more expensive, unless i'm missing something

Boataholic

I thought about a mini 14. I asked a friend who is well connected about them. He made some inquiry's and said they are notoriously in-accurate? I'd do some googling about their accuracy before ordering one.

p.s. I stumbled across this site few days ago and it's got some appeal for me. http://www.gunblast.com/300Blackout.htm Interesting round.

I like it in this rifle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Q7EsIPGY8

http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/

Shag

Actually you can get 7.62 x 39 for about the same price if not cheaper than .223 (5.56). Georgia Arms has 1000 rds of .223 at about $350 and 7.62 x 39 is $100 for 300 rounds. Either way it's a little over 30 cents per. You can find both cheaper but be careful of steel casings and corrosive primers.

Mist, I gotta agree to disgree. My favorite rifles are my M-14's and I look at the "M"ini-"14" as nothing more than a smaller version with the same type action.

Mardi-Gras

I purchased Bushmaster SuperLight Carbine from the gun source.



Fun gun decent price and build.

ladyjane

I have a mini-14 1976 model bi-sentinel full stock and it is a sitter as the accuracy is not as good as the AR.

Mist-Rest

I understand Shag. No harm whatsoever. That's why they make so many guns. God made many models of woman too!!!

Cracker

I have all three AR 15, MINI 14 and an AK

Here are the negatives in the MINI
1. at 50 to 75 yards it is OK accuracy on par with the AK BUT nothing like an AR 15.
2. A MINI is heavier than both.
3. You have many more accessories and options with an AR and probably more with an AK.
4. MINIs tend to be very tempermental about magazines... To be truely sure of function, go with factory mags, a 20 rounder, is about 25 bucks
5. I find I shoot both the AR and AK much more than the MINI
6.

I will always hang onto my MINI but it pretty much sits in the safe...

I love the MINI 14's action and it is rifle that will keep on shooting even when pretty dirty. For the money you will spend for a new one, I would spend a little more and get an AR or spend less and get an AK...

If you buy WOLF ammo which an AK is designed to shoot it is cheaper than 223 stuff..

Bugbuster

I've set my sights on an ar10 will a 24 in bull barrel. I'm gonna place it in the "perimeter" gun cabinet.

Mist-Rest

An Armalite AR10T is what you'll find in my safe with a 24 inch stainless target barrel. I really need to get a regular barrel to shoot crap thru it. No need to tear up the good one.

jobowker

Huge difference between the two, even though the mini 14 is based on it. The M 14 is very accurate relative to most semi autos. The mini does not share this same level of accuracy. It had to do with the way the gas block was installed on the barrel. Don't expect a mini 14 at 50 yards to get the same group you can get out of an m14 at 100.

If you want a plinker get an ak 47 in 7.62x39 (roughly equivalent to a 30-30 performance wise) or for really cheap ammo get an ak 74 in 5.45x39 (their equivalent to our 5.56). 5.45 is the absolute cheapest rifle ammo by far.

Bugbuster

Chris, what .17 did you get?

cgrand

ordered the marlin 17 with the scope that you posted, thanks for the tip!
i almost switched gears and got a rem 17 fireball, but damn that rifle is heavy

i'm going to swing by bass pro tonite and handle a couple of mini's and see how they fit me, alot of the complaints i see are weight-related, plus the issue with non-factory mags