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Old 01-31-2005, 11:49 AM
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Default Do you make "sparks" at home? Need your advice....

Did I mention this question is about home generators? Whoops ..... sorry for the shameless, intentionally misleading title.....I have fallen victim to the same devious marketing strategies on more then one occassion and wanted to see if it worked....and to give some of the other perps a taste of their own medicine!

Since you are here.......

I have a moveable 10kw generator and want to go to a fixed base, natural gas, 15kw unit. Does anybody have a recommendation of a good model I should look at? Equally important - feel free to flame a bad model if you know of one. BTW - nobody should waste any time trying to convince me I don't need a generator. Thanks in advance....
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:16 PM
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Kohler, the only way to fly. Mines diesel so I can't speak to the Natural Gas, but I do have a lot of it to last me...........
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:37 PM
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2 houses here in MA. One has a 12.5KW peak for heating, fridges, freezers, well pump and very limited lighting. Mine has a 6500 peak for heat, well, MBR/MB lighting, fridge, some lighting. Both are portable gasoline units and there is a 500 gallon gas UST on site, hand pump opperated.
Building a new house in Maine this spring. It will have a Kohler LP fired 8 (?) KW unit. The LP units require very little maintence, oil change intervals are longer, and in my case the LP vessel will be on site. They are also more quiet than diesel units and have less stink. (I do love the smell of diesel though) This unit will be going out by the detatched garage so I don't need to worry about more fuel storage (diesel) even though the house will have back up oil fired FHA. It gets very cold up there and more than one diesel engine has been known not to fire up for one reason or another.
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My parents have the one that automatically comes on when the power is lost. It will also fire up to run the set once a week. This is tied into their house power.
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:19 PM
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My parents too. They bought a Guardian natural gas. I think its a 15 KW. The only circuit they had to isolate in a 3200 sq ft house was the A/C.

We bought a Generac (same company but commercial division) here at the office. I don't know what KW it is but it runs a three phase panel and has a 6 cylinder Chevy Vortec engine in it.

Before I get flamed, I am sure you could get it with a Ford motor.

I like the natural gas idea. No stale fuel, no stabilizers, no storage.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:23 PM
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Thanks guys. Bailey - I forgot about Kohler....given their experience in yacht gensets they should know how to make a quiet unit. Roger that on the natural production comment - if only they could make a painfree collection device and long term storage system! I really don't have access to diesel other then hauling gas tanks (I want to avoid that). I imagine the diesels are very efficient compared to a gas burner. The auto on feature is a must so my wife doesn't have to do anything other then wait 30 seconds for the new power to come on. BTW - the only drawback with natural gas is being in an area that has incurred very significant structural damage - the authorities often kill the NG feeds to prevent fires or explosions.

Shag - how do you think a HPDI 300 would do in this application, assuming I can keep the saltwater away from it? Why did your folks isolate the AC with a 15kw? My 10kw can run my entire house in the winter but in the AC months I can still run my 5ton AC compressor, and not much else. 15kw is alot of juice assuming people are not blow drying hair, running electric ovens, mixing meth, running a porn movie production, operating a 3 bay chop shop, growing a 2000 plant pot farm, etc. (Don't ask me how I know these important things).
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:36 PM
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Tireless,
Is LP unavailable in your area? The gen set is NFG w/o the fuel to run it. You can direct bury the tank so you don't have to look at it. At that point change out the nozzels and convert your cooking and heating to it thus avoiding interuptions in services. Just a thought....
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:41 PM
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[QUOTE]Tireless - 1/31/2005 3:23 PM

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Old 01-31-2005, 05:00 PM
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Thanks Mist - I don't believe LP is in code here. Besides, the City of Atlanta passed a law two years ago that would make it impossible for me to bury a tank let alone plant a bush in my yard. They made a 75 foot set back for any land near a waterway, or creek in my case. My inner city yard is bordered by two creeks and the buffer zone probably makes it illegal for me to cut my grass. Those bastards.....

Will do Shag. We have huge old oaks in Atlanta (these are the cause of outages) and they fall in wind storms, rain storms, ice storms, snow storms, hurricanes, tornados, etc. - all of these we get on too many occassions throughout the year.

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Old 01-31-2005, 07:25 PM
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Dave-

Give me a call. remember what I do. Keith and Kiley hook up generators all the time. In fact they were in Atlanta not too long ago.


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Old 01-31-2005, 08:47 PM
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Awesome Chris.....I didn't think you did this kind of stuff. I'll try to reach you tomorrow. Give me a shout on the bat phone if there is a convenient time for you.

BTW - mahi season is right around the corner....are you getting ready to make some long runs?
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Old 02-01-2005, 08:13 PM
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Are you kidding...If spring doesn't get here soon i'm gonna freeze. My lingo is starting to change i'm saying things like "youbettcha" and "yaahhaa"
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