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Old 12-13-2011, 12:28 PM
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changed the oil in my tahoe today,i was in a rush and busted my ass to no avail getting the old filter off but couldnt get the thing to budge,tried everything but now its time to go so i had to fill the truck with fresh oil but the old filter.Being that it was a fram filter not the junk you get at jiffy lube will i be alright till the next oil change with the old filter still on?
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You'll be fine. Just get the filter off when you can. It is not like there are chunks floating around in the engine that won't get caught of you don't have a new filter on there.

Were you trying to get it off when everything was still hot or warm?, it should be easier to get it off when everything is warmed up.
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Yes, you will be okay, but that quart of old oil that stayed in your filter is now polluting all that nice new oil. (psych)

I just puch a screwdriver through 'em if they won't come off. Then, the channel locks, if needed.
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Originally Posted by tprtpr41 View Post
Being that it was a fram filter not the junk you get at jiffy lube will i be alright till the next oil change with the old filter still on?
Got news for you, the orange Fram filters aren't much better than Jiffy Lube junk.

Do a search on Fram oil filters.
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Originally Posted by Roll Tide View Post
Got news for you, the orange Fram filters aren't much better than Jiffy Lube junk.

Do a search on Fram oil filters.
I say they're worse - based on no scientific data.

Also - make sure you didn't damage it in your appempt go get the old one off. (check for leaks)
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Geez- who put on that Fram filter? If you don't have a strap wrench to remove the old filter, get one and use it.

Buy a Wix or NAPA Silver oil filter- much better product than Fram. Oil the gasket, tighten properly.
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
Geez- who put on that Fram filter? If you don't have a strap wrench to remove the old filter, get one and use it.

Buy a Wix or NAPA Silver oil filter- much better product than Fram. Oil the gasket, tighten properly.
Yep, what he said ^^^^^^^^

Fram is one of the most overrated, overhyped, and overmarketed POS you can waste money on. They really don't filter squat, becuase of the cheap ass way they make the bypass valve, they are bypassing about 50% of the oil that passes through. Get a Wix or Napa Gold filter. Simply put, they're the best filters made for your application and that includes the original A/C Delco. No, I don't sell them, never worked for them and have no ties, other than I've used them successfully in many applications for 30 years.
If you don't believe me, just save that old Fram when you take it off and drain it, then cut it open and see how it's made; then when you pull off your next Napa/Wix filter, do the same and compare the two.
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If you know what Fram filter is on the Tahoe, go in Walmart, find the filter, and then find one of those black filter "cups" that fits the end, and has a square hole in the middle for a ratchet extension bar. That will take it off. Do the same thing for the Wix or NAPA filter that you are going to use in the future. Wix and NAPA are the same filter, but they come in two grades, get the good one.
If you punch a hole in it, and still can't get it off, you're screwed. If it's like my recent Chevy trucks, there is no room for a strap wrench.
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Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
If you punch a hole in it, and still can't get it off, you're screwed. If it's like my recent Chevy trucks, there is no room for a strap wrench.
How right you are.. Back in 03 when I purchased my 1500 with a 5.3 I fought the oil filter issue for exactly the first oil change. I then went to talk to Mr. Nappa for a potential solution to the access problem. Being that nappas usually have knowing intelligent staff behind the counters they readily offered up a simple cost free solution that has worked well for me ever since.

They offered up an alternative filter Nappa Gold 1522, everything about it is the same except that it's longer in length. The additional length is just enough to extend it down where you can then get a good purchase on the filter to deal with it but it's still plenty safe enough from any road hazards.
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Originally Posted by Bamby View Post
How right you are.. Back in 03 when I purchased my 1500 with a 5.3 I fought the oil filter issue for exactly the first oil change. I then went to talk to Mr. Nappa for a potential solution to the access problem. Being that nappas usually have knowing intelligent staff behind the counters they readily offered up a simple cost free solution that has worked well for me ever since.

They offered up an alternative filter Nappa Gold 1522, everything about it is the same except that it's longer in length. The additional length is just enough to extend it down where you can then get a good purchase on the filter to deal with it but it's still plenty safe enough from any road hazards.
Interesting. I've changed oil filters on GM 5.0, 5.7 and 5.3L V8's in light trucks and have always been able to use a strap wrench on the stock AC filter. I wonder what has been in the way for you folks? Yes, the first one is a bear to get off (thanks, factory guys), but once new ones are installed per directions they are always easy to change.

Not a recommendation for AC filters- I prefer Wix or NAPA Gold/Silver.
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I've never had a problem getting the filter off mine.

I also preferred the longer filters - A/C PF51 if I recall. It's been replaced by the PF52...(or maybe it's the other way around.) The shorter one seems to work fine...I've got 128K on the 6.0
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Never had a problem getting my filter off any of the GM trucks I have owned since 1987. Sometimes it was difficult to wiggle up there and get a purchase on the filter, but I always got it. Did you have a filter wrench or just trying by hand?
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I second Wix or NAPA.

Who tightened the Fram so tight?
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Frams are a POS like previous posters have said I use only Hastings, K&N, or Bosch filters on my cars use hastings the most
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
Geez- who put on that Fram filter? If you don't have a strap wrench to remove the old filter, get one and use it.

Buy a Wix or NAPA Silver oil filter- much better product than Fram. Oil the gasket, tighten properly.
x2 on the strap wrench. Use nothing but.
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Filter is a filter. Mechanics and others will bad mouth stuff sold by discount chains. They said the same about Quaker State Oil as soon as Kmart started selling it - before that all garages used it.

A strap type wrench should work - the filter is strongest at the end - get the right leverage (position) and get two hands in there and it will come off. If not take it to your local garage for the next oil change. Never heard of a pro (mechanic) have a problem getting off an oil filter. Don't worry about one quart of old oil - there is always some of the old stuff left at every change.
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Originally Posted by JALICHTY View Post
Never had a problem getting my filter off any of the GM trucks I have owned since 1987. Sometimes it was difficult to wiggle up there and get a purchase on the filter, but I always got it. Did you have a filter wrench or just trying by hand?
Exactly and if you can so easily purchase a filter that's a bit longer that can be unscrewed with you fingertips, why install one that's so recessed? I personally rather have a little oil on my fingers rather than it running down and draining off my elbow..
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
Filter is a filter. Mechanics and others will bad mouth stuff sold by discount chains. They said the same about Quaker State Oil as soon as Kmart started selling it - before that all garages used it.

Thats not true fram has been known to use the thinnest of paper and the least about of pleats of element in their filters
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Originally Posted by glacierbaze View Post
If you know what Fram filter is on the Tahoe, go in Walmart, find the filter, and then find one of those black filter "cups" that fits the end, and has a square hole in the middle for a ratchet extension bar. That will take it off. Do the same thing for the Wix or NAPA filter that you are going to use in the future. Wix and NAPA are the same filter, but they come in two grades, get the good one.
If you punch a hole in it, and still can't get it off, you're screwed. If it's like my recent Chevy trucks, there is no room for a strap wrench.
That's a good start, but there is better. Instead of buying individual cups buy just one of these and do them ALL.

3 leg oil filter wrench:
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/3-le...er-wrench.html

...my personal favorite is the third one down, but I've used several of the other models. They all work off the same principal, the harder you apply force to remove the filter the tighter the legs get....zero slipage!
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I don't have a lift. Work on a creeper with the truck on 8 inch, solid wood ramps, and I work from the front only now, no more working behind the tire. With the skid plate, and the height, the ratchet and the filter cup work best for me.

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