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Old 12-10-2011, 06:01 AM
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The recent storm in the Northeast blew about a dozen shingles off the peak of my roof and caused a few others to tear and slide. These are GAF asphalt shingles that were put on about 14 years ago, on top of new plywood. House is a dutch colonial, about 85 years old.

Got an estimate to replace the ones that are off (I supply) and renail those that have moved. Roofer estimated 3 - 4 hours for $1200.

Does that seem like the going rate? This roofer came recommended but I will get other estimates as well. Just trying to get a feel for what I'm looking at.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:04 AM
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Sounds like it should be half that unless its super high up.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:22 AM
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About half seems like a fair price unless there is some something out of the ordinary about getting to to area or something.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:26 AM
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Sounds a little high. Im having 2 layers of roofing removed, ridge vents installed for around $6500. There installing Gaf Timberline HD shingles about 22square
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:28 AM
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Time for a new roof.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:29 AM
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I would suggest you contact your insurance company, and have them send an appraiser. If you have visible wind damage, there is a possibility (strong) that you also have damage that is only visible to the trained eye. In high winds large sections can become loosened but appear fine from the ground, even while looking from on the roof. Creasing caused by the shingles bending backwards may also not be noticable. Doesn't cost you anything, and they know what to look for.

The price you were quoted sounds high in my book.

Good luck, no money up front (only for materials on the ground), references (and follow up on them!) and proper permits/inspections (passed and signed off on before payment!).
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a. billinstuart is right, sadly

b. skibum is right about notifying your insurance company. The adjuster will probably have one of their roofers get onto the roof and give a visual inspection. Bent tabs are very common and a roofer that repairs shingles will not warranty his work if he's smart, because the tab right next to the one he renailed might rip off in the next storm.

If they tell you they won't warrant the work, they're honest. If they warrant the work, be very surprised if you see them again.

Roofers can charge $1200 and be fair if they actually spend a lot of time inspecting and re-nailing a lot more than you thought was broken. A quick in/out would be half of that, assuming a 12/12 pitch or so.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:39 AM
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I would call several roofers and get a quote for a new roof and a quote for a repair. How steep is the roof is it not something you can fix yourself? Roofings not hard if there is no valley or penetrations to deal with. $10 flatbar, gloves and a bundle of shingles any you can save yourself $1200.
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New shingles or for that matter those from different lots will not match. Are there any 'new' shingles that were left from 14 yrs ago when roof was put on? Should be no big deal to get up there and put down a dozen or so. Did they get torn off from a ridge vent? Might need to look at that also.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:41 AM
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I thought it a littlke high given the amount of time he said it would take but I am so far removed I really had no idea. He did mention he wouldn't warranty the repair work. He has provided a long list of local references.

Price to rip all off and relay HD is ten times higher. I don't know how many square but it is a two story home of ~2000 sq ft. He said it would take one full day.

I was trying to avoid the insurance route but tht probably does make sense to pursue.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:54 AM
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As an adjuster, I recommend you contact your ins co.
Where are you on LI? I might be able to help out with a referral.
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$1200 for that repair or $12000 for a new roof on a 2000 sq.ft. house. I'm gunna go out on a limb and say (despite of this economy) that roofer has plenty of backlogged work to do. I would keep searching for a good roofer that needs the work right now.

It's a very common practice for contractors to quote based on their work load. Obviously if he doesn't need the work right now the quote is going to be higher.
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the going rate down south for a complete tear off and replacement INCLUDING all materials, new vents and pipe collars,drip edge, roofing felt,permits and disposal fees is around $225 per square. and that is using Lifetime Guaranteed architectual shingles.

if you have a 2000 sq ft 2 story you only have about 1/2 of that footage as roof.
assuming 1300 sq ft of roof that equals 13 squares( 100 sq ft per square)

13 squares x $225 = $2925 for a entire new roof. add 25% for a steep pitch( over 12/12 ) and you still only get $3656 for an all new roof.

a couple hours is about right and we always send 2 men so $35 x 2 men = 70 per hour x 4 hours = $280 plus $50 max materials = $330

anything else is a rip off.

must be union roofers up there.
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Usually "steep and/or high" kicks in on anything over 6/12 out west here...
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I am not surprised by that price for this area. Get another estimate or 2. BUT call the insurance people and let them deal with it. It will probably look like a patch when done Or go for the new roof. But even then - see the insurance folks first.
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I'm a general contractor and that seems high.. Hell thats a hundred bucks a shingle. I might need to relocate to New York. May be able to turn a profit there.. Your talking about 1 bundle of shingles ( less than $50 bucks) and a few punds of nails at most( $10 bucks). Even if the materials run $100, that still leaves $1100. Not bad for 3 hours work.
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I'd pay for folly basser's travel and expenses, and have it done by him!
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Originally Posted by Beefer View Post
I'd pay for folly basser's travel and expenses, and have it done by him!

thanks- we travel for work quite often.
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